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Update on Alliant Credit Union - Competitive Savings Account and CD Rates

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 - 6:40 PM CT by Ken - Bank Deals Guy

View current rates for Alliant CU
Update 8/01/09: The savings account and CD rates have fallen. Please check the credit union's website for the latest rates. Other than the rates, the rest of this post is still applicable. Refer to the bottom of the post for the savings account rate history.

Alliant Credit Union has held steady into April with a yield of 4.35% APY on its High-Yield Savings Account. According to the disclosure page and my conversation with the CSR, this should hold for all of April. As you can see from my last weekly rate summary, it's the best savings account rate in the nation. Here's a summary of its features based on their website and info from the CSR:
  • paid monthly on average daily balances of $100 or more
  • $5 minimum balance
  • no maximum balance limit
  • Surcharge-free ATMs at CO-OP Network and Alliance One ATMs (see disclosure)
  • Online free bank-to-bank ACH transfer service is available
  • ACH transfers are limited to $10,000 daily in/out
  • No ACH limit on receiving over $10,000 if initiated at another bank
  • No limit on the number of ACH links to other banks

The savings account with the same rate is also available as an IRA (Traditional, Roth and SEP), a Coverdell ESA, a Trust Account and a Uniform Transfer to Minors Act (UTMA) custodial account. The Health Savings Account even has a higher rate (currently 5.15% APY for a minimum balance of $100). This might be one of the best HSAs in the country. Some of its features include free HSA checks, free Visa HSA debit card and no fees. Refer to this FW thread for a good overview of HSAs.

Update 4/03/08: I asked my contact at Alliant if she could provide more details about their ACH transfer policies. Below is what I received:
In an effort to reduce the risk of potential fraud against Alliant Credit Union or another financial institution account, we do impose limits on Alliant-initiated ACH transfers in the following amounts:

- For initial funding of a newly opened membership without a certificate, the limit is $1,000 (Update 10/08/09: This has been increased to $10,000)

- For initial funding of a newly opened with a certificate, the limit is $11,000 (of which $10,000 can be used to fund the certificate and $1,000 to fund another share/account under the membership)

- Once the membership has been established, the member may subsequently request Alliant-initiated ACH transfers to/from other financial institutions via Skybranch up to $10,000 per day. The process is free of charge. As the process involves batch processing through the Federal Reserve ACH, it can take 2-3 banking days to complete (Update 10/08/09: Alliant has variable maximum limits that are based on the following criteria: Length of membership, Loans, Average Daily balance and if the member is in good standing.)

- A one-time trial-deposit verification process is necessary before full ACH transfers (up to the daily maximum) will be allowed. No paper forms are required. As the verification process also involves batch processing through the Federal Reserve ACH, it can also take 2-3 banking days to complete

- At present, Alliant Credit Union only offers this Alliant-initiated ACH transfer process to/from other financial institution accounts via Skybranch

- Members may initiate ACH transfers through other financial institutions in any amount up to the policy limit of that financial institution. We encourage members to inquire with the other financial institution on any fees they might impose for initiating an ACH request.

- Regulation D does restrict the number of electronic and phone transactions from a Savings share to no more than 6 per month (certain other transactions are included & excluded)

- Members interested in moving larger amounts and/or expediting the process might also consider initiating a wire transfer with their other financial institution. Wire transfers can often be completed the same day and without dollar amount limitations). We encourage members to inquire with the other financial institution on any fees they might impose for initiating wire transfers. Any member interested in wiring funds to their Alliant Credit Union account must carefully follow all inbound wire transfer instructions found on our home page (www.alliantcreditunion.com) to ensure proper execution of the process

- We are constantly looking at ways to improve access and member convenience, while appropriately managing risk. As such, we are currently reviewing our ACH limits and options, and may consider increases and enhancements later this year.

Alliant Certificates

Unlike the savings, the CSR said that CD rates are subject to change at any time. They still have some of the best CD rates as of April 1, 2008:
  • 4.40% APY for 12 to 17 months for $25K minimum deposit
  • 4.15% APY for 18 to 24 months for $25K minimum deposit
  • Rates 40 basis points lower for a $1K minimum deposit

Alliant's Certificate FAQ page is fairly thorough. Some things to note:
  • Dividends earned on a Certificate are not available for withdrawal until maturity.
  • You may have both joint owners and/or beneficiaries on your Alliant Certificate
  • 10 day grace period at maturity
  • Early withdrawal penalties include: 90 days of interest for terms of 12 to 17 months, 120 days of interest for terms of 18 to 23 months and 180 days of interest for a 24 month term.
  • CDs available as a Traditional IRA, Roth IRA, SEP IRA and Coverdell ESA

The best deals are the terms from 12 to 17 months. There's not much reason to choose the 18-month CD. With the 17-month CD, you get a yield 25 basis points higher and a shorter early withdrawal penalty.

An important point not mentioned on the website is that you cannot open the CD online and fund it with an ACH deposit over $10,000. If you don't live near a branch, there are a few options you can use. One way is to first transfer the money into your Alliant savings account. You can do this using the ACH or wire transfer service of another bank. You can also FedEx a check if you want overnight delivery service. Make sure to send to their street address since private delivery companies cannot deliver to PO Boxes. Routing number and overnight service address are listed at Alliant's contact page.

Membership Qualifications

Membership is open to local and national PTA members. There's a $25 membership fee for the National PTA, and it appears to be open to all. You can find your local PTA here. Membership in your local PTA may be a lower cost option. Please see the credit union's members eligibility page for more details. Note, MyPoint membership is NOT a qualification for membership. Credit union membership requires a minimum deposit of $5 into the savings account.

Some readers have been concerned with yearly membership fees of an association. Here's what Alliant emailed me in January:
Once an applicant qualifies for Alliant membership, they can remain a member regardless of the continued status of the original qualifying relationship. Once a member becomes a member, they are always a member. However, accounts can be closed voluntarily by the member or by Alliant as a result of it not being in good standing.

This is generally true with all credit unions.

Update 4/25/08: Some readers reported being told that Mileage Plus membership can qualify you for credit union membership. I'm afraid Mileage Plus members do not qualify. I asked my management contact at Alliant Credit Union, and here's the reply I received:
being a member of Mileage Plus does not qualify for membership. Only Mileage Plus employees and their family members are eligible through this relationship.

Reports About Joining, Opening CDs and Customer Service

Several readers have reported problems with Alliant's online membership application. Many had better luck filling out the paper application and mailing it in. One reader mentioned that he sent the paper application and check by overnight mail, and they opened the CD the next day.

One other note regarding membership, several readers have reported a hard credit inquiry by Equifax.

Alliant's customer service has impressed many readers. Reports indicate they answer their phones promptly and provide helpful information. They have 24/7 live phone assistance.

Credit Union Overview

Branches are located in Chicago, Des Plaines, and Elk Grove Township, Illinois. There are also branches in Colorado, California and Virginia. The credit union is federally insured by the NCUA (Charter # 67955). It's a large credit union with $4.9 billion in assets and 211,631 members. Alliant Credit Union still has a rating of 3 out of 5 stars (performing) at Bankrate based on 12/31/07 data.

Past Alliant Credit Union Posts and Other Resources

To review my previous posts on Alliant and read past comments, please refer to my Alliant Credit Union page. Also, this FW thread includes has some additional details.

Savings Account Rate History:
07/01/09: 2.00% APY
06/01/09: 2.25% APY
05/01/09: 2.50% APY
04/01/09: 2.75% APY
02/01/09: 3.00% APY
01/01/09: 3.25% APY
12/01/08: 3.50% APY
07/01/08: 3.75% APY
05/01/08: 4.00% APY
02/01/08: 4.35% APY
01/01/08: 4.85% APY
01/01/07: 4.85% APY
07/01/06: 4.65% APY
01/01/06: 3.80% APY



 
 
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Mary - #1, Tuesday, April 1, 2008 - 7:14 PM CT

Alliant, however, cannot open any account for a business or corporation. I have a pension plan trust for my company and the CSR returned all my forms and checks. They, also, can only accept funds in a revocable trust, not in an irrevocable trust, according to our conversation.


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Michael - #2, Tuesday, April 1, 2008 - 9:18 PM CT

Banking Guy, just to clarify: You wrote that there is no $10,000 daily limit if transferring money in via ACH from another bank, using the other bank to initiate the transfer.

But what if you use the other bank to initiate an ACH transfer from Alliant's Savings Account? Would Alliant restrict that outbound transfer initiated at the other bank to the $10,000 limit?

I tried to call Alliant to get a definitive answer and failed. I asked for a call back, but they never did.

Thank you for the detailed posting on Alliant, since Alliant is the top rate for online savings.


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Michael - #3, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 - 11:33 AM CT

I called Alliant Credit Union this morning again.

I wanted to know about any daily limits pertaining to withdrawals from their savings account if an ACH transfer is initiated from an external bank.

The rep told me that there would indeed be that $10,000 daily limit.

I then asked if one also opens up an Alliant free checking account, would there be a daily $10,000 limit to transfer from the savings to the checking account internally? The rep answered yes there would be (totally unfair, of course).

I then asked: what if one went to a shared credit union branch in person (a credit union other than Alliant, of course) and then wanted to get a cashier's check from the funds in the Alliant Savings Account? Would there be that $10,000 daily limit for withdrawals? The rep said no. One can get a cashier's check for more than the $10,000 daily limit from a Credit Union Shared Branch.

Whew! I hope the above is clear, and I am assuming accurate (assuming that CSR's give out correct information over the phone).


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Michael - #4, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 - 11:44 AM CT

One more thing I think is important for people to know:

Since it is a savings account, Alliant Credit Union limits monthly electronic transactions to just 6 per month. So, it's $10,000 daily limit, but it is just allowed only 6 times per month.

Something to keep in mind, which could prove important, should one first deposit a large balance and then the bank drop their rate sharply and then one wants to transfer their money out to another bank that is paying higher interest.

If Banking Guy already posted about this 6 electronic transactions per month rule, I apologize for repeating it here.


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Anonymous - #5, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 - 2:03 PM CT

Guys, usually restrictions like this don't apply if you close the account completely. Someone should ask Alliant this. You can probably close the account and wire all the money out in one day. For those who don' like wire fees, keep in mind that days lost in interest due to ACH delay usually add up to the same as a wire fee. - sfchris


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