Best Bank Account Interest Rates - Summary for July 17, 2010

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- Discussion Forum and the Sweepstakes
- Savings Account Rates
- Rate Hikes
- Rate Cuts
- Certificate of Deposit Rates
- Are CDs Worthwhile in Today's Rate Environment?
- Reward Checking Accounts
- Recap for the Week - Links to This Week's Posts
- Checking/Savings/Money Market Accounts
- 3-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 6-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 9-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 12-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 18-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 24-Month Certificates of Deposit
- 36-Month Certificate of Deposit
- 48-Month Certificate of Deposit
- 60-Month Certificate of Deposit
- 84-Month Certificate of Deposit
- Various Deposit Account Deals
- Bank Account Alternatives
The major financial reform bill passed the Senate this week and the President is expected to sign it into law next week. The one provision of this bill that many savers will appreciate is the permanent increase of the $250K deposit insurance limit. Without this change, the $250K limit would expire on December 31, 2013. With the $250K limit becoming permanent, savers will no longer have to worry about new 5-year or 4-year CDs that may become partly uninsured in 2014.
Other parts of the bill will likely be bad for many savers with reward checking accounts and cash-back credit cards. The issue of regulation causing banks to reduce deposit rates may already be occurring. New overdraft regulation that makes it easier for people to avoid overdraft fees started to take effect on July 1st. According to this Bankrate.com article
A recent analysis from Market Rates Insight reported that in the first week after Regulation E took effect on July 1, the national average rate for deposits dropped 0.06 percent.
This year has been a perfect storm for savers with many factors coming together to suppress deposit rates. We will probably have to wait for 2011 before there's a decent chance of rate hikes. The Fed funds futures are now showing the implied probability of a higher Fed funds target rate by December at 7.8% which is down from last Saturday when it was 8.1%. At least the decline wasn't as much as previous weeks.
The FDIC had a busy Friday this week with six bank closures which brings this year's bank failure total to 96. All of the banks were relatively small, and the FDIC was able to find buyers for all of them. The buyers agreed to assume all deposits (except some brokered deposits) including deposits above the FDIC limit. The main concern for depositors is the loss of their CD interest rates. The acquiring banks are allowed to reduce rates on existing CDs. One of the acquiring banks stated in their Q&A that "rates on certain CD accounts and IRA accounts will be adjusted to current market rates." That could be big rate reduction for those who had long-term CDs that were opened a few years ago. The depositors will be allowed to make a penalty free early withdrawal, but that won't help much in today's interest rate environment.
Discussion Forum and the Sweepstakes
The sweepstakes has ended, and we have three winners! I've updated the sweepstakes post with the forum members who won. Congratulations to the winners, and thanks to all who participated. We hope you will continue to participate in the forum. Don't forget that an easy way to view the forum is by using the Latest Thread link which shows the latest threads in a fashion that's similar to a blog.
Savings Account Rates
This was another quiet week for savings accounts. There were no rate changes for any of the top savings accounts.
With most 3-month CD rates being under 1.00%, EverBank's 3-month money market promo looks appealing. It has a 3-month rate of 2.25% APY for up to $50K. The checking account promo also has a 2.25% APY 3-month intro rate, but the maximum balance is up to $100K. Both can be done at the same time for a total of $150K. For more details about these promos and these accounts, please refer to my EverBank review.
Rate Hikes:
- None
Rate Cuts:
- None
Certificate of Deposit Rates
I can't say this was a quiet week for CD rates. Several banks and credit unions cut their CD rates including Bank of Internet USA, CNB Bank Direct and Wings Financial Credit Union.
There was one bright spot. Fort Knox FCU did a slight rate increase on its two CD specials. The rates are now 1.75% APY for a 14-month term and 2.30% APY for a 23-month term. Another bright spot is that Alliant Credit Union continues to offer top CD rates including a 2.00% APY 18-month CD and a 3.00% APY 48-month CD. If you prefer an internet bank rather than a credit union, Sallie Mae Bank is a good choice with competitive CDs including a 1.55% APY 1-year CD.
Are CDs Worthwhile in Today's Rate Environment?
With CD rates so low, is it worthwhile to open a CD? Using a high-yield savings account at institutions like Alliant Credit Union or Sallie Mae Bank is an alternative. Rates will eventually rise, and you'll get higher savings account rates rather than being locked into a low-rate CD.
The problem is that no one knows when rates will rise. Early this year, many had thought we would see rate hikes in the second half of 2010. Now it looks like it won't be until 2011 at the earliest. If rates do stay low or continue to fall, you can earn more with CDs. For example, one year ago Discover Bank was offering a 2.10% 1-year CD and a 2.00% savings account. Today, the savings account rate is 1.35%. As you can see, a saver would have earned more with the 1-year CD.
Even when rates rise, you may earn more with a 1-year CD than a savings account. In September 2005, an ING Direct 1-year CD yield was 4.20% and the savings account yield was 3.40%. This was the time that the Fed was actually raising rates (sure seems to be a long time ago). By September 2006, the ING Direct savings account yield had risen to 4.40%. This was a higher rate than the 1-year CD from the previous year. However, the average savings account yield for the year was about 3.90%. So even in this case, the saver would have earned more with the 1-year CD.
Rates will eventually rise, but no one knows how long these low rates will last. If you do open a CD, make sure you review the early withdrawal penalty. This is especially important for long-term CDs. The bank with the best early withdrawal penalty continues to be Ally Bank with only 60-days of interest for all terms including the 2.94% APY 5-year CD. For more details about Ally Bank and its CDs, please refer to my Ally Bank CD review post.
Reward Checking Accounts
I reported on two new reward checking accounts this week. Both offer attractive rates: 4.00% APY and 4.75% APY. Both apply to balances up to $25K. The 4.75% yield is being offered by the North Carolina bank, Randolph Bank and Trust Company, and the bank is currently allowing people from any state to apply. Before this, the best nationwide reward checking yield was only 4.00% APY. It's a small bank so this rate and/or this nationwide policy may not last for too long.
The financial reform bill that's likely to become law next week will be a test for reward checking. Debit card fees that banks get from retailers will likely go down. It may also become more difficult for reward checking customers since stores will be allowed to offer discounts for cash and can impose a minimum purchase requirement on credit card purchases.
To find both reward checking accounts local to you and those available nationwide, please refer to the reward checking section of DepositAccounts.com.
Recap for the Week - Links to This Week's Posts
Banking News/Resources
- Brokered CD: Higher Returns from Your Cash
- Regulators Close Six Banks: Three in Florida, Two in South Carolina and One in Michigan
- Senate Passes the Financial Reform Bill - $250K Deposit Insurance Limit Will Be Permanent
- How to File a Complaint Against Your Bank or Credit Union
CD Deals - National
Savings/Checking Accounts - Nationwide
- High-Yield Reward Checking Account at Randolph Bank & Trust Company in NC - Available Nationwide
- Direct Deposit Requirements for Reward Checking Accounts
- High-Yield Reward Checking Account at Rockford Bank & Trust in IL - Local Only
CD and Money Market Deals - Local
- High Interest Checking without Debit Card Requirements at Carthage Federal in NY - Local Only
- Top Add-On CD Rate & $100 Savings Account Promo at NMTW Community Credit Union in MA & NH - Local Only
- Special 19-Month CD at East Boston Savings Bank in MA - Local Only
- Top Money Market and CD Rates at Atlanta Business Bank - Georgia Only
- Competitive 5-Year CD and IRA CD Rates at Chaffey FCU in California - Limited Membership
- Top CD Rates Continue at Eastman Credit Union in Parts of TN, VA, TX, SC & AR - Local Only
- Top 5-Year CD at Mobiloil Credit Union in East Texas - Local Only
- Top CD Specials at Carolina Bank in NC - Local Only
- Competitive CD Rates at Collin Bank in Texas - Local Only
- Competitive CD Specials at The Miners State Bank in Michigan - Local Only
- Competitive CD Rates at Hudson Valley CU in New York - Local Only
- Competitive Long-Term CD and IRA CD Rates at Randolph-Brooks Credit Union in Texas - Local Only
The rates listed below are based on Annual Percentage Yield (APY). No minimum balances are required unless noted. MMA next to the rates indicate a money market account. Most MMAs have check writing and ATM cards. Online savings accounts usually lack both of these. Previous weekly summaries are available at this page. Quick Links: Refer to the following links for the savings accounts and CDs that interest you: Liquid Account Rates: Savings Accounts, Reward Checking, Bank alternatives CD Rates: 3 Mo CDs, 6 Mo CDs, 9 Mo CDs, 12 Mo CDs, 18 Mo CDs, 24 Mo CDs, 36 Mo CDs, 48 Mo CDs, 60 Mo CDs, 84 Mo CDs, CDs by state Comments: read and discuss
As of July 17, 2010
Checking/Savings/Money Market Accounts:
- Best Reward Checking Account Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Best Savings Account Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Best Money Market Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Best Checking Account Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- EverBank - 2.25% ($5K min), 3 mo promo rate up to $50K (1.26% stnd) account review
- SmartyPig - 2.15% (min $25, max $50K) withdrawal restrictions, account review
- AmericaNet/Evantage Bank - 2.00% (up to $35K, 1% over) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 1.60% MMA (min $50K)
- Incredible Bank - 1.53% Checking ($1K min) account review
- Palladian PrivateBank - 1.50% (min $10K) account review
- 1st Constitution Direct - 1.50% (min $10K) New accounts only (1.25% $10K+ stnd) account review
- Acacia Federal Savings Bank - 1.50% Savings
- Acacia Federal Savings Bank - 1.50% Checking (min $5K) account review
- Alliant Credit Union - 1.50% (min $100), account review
- Ready Saver - 1.50% account review
- NewDominion Bank - 1.40% (min $1.5K)
- Clear Sky Accounts - 1.40% account review
- Capital One/Costco - 1.40% InterestPlus Savings ($5K min) quarterly bonuses for $15K+, account review
- Sallie Mae Bank - 1.40% (Upromise rewards) account review
- Discover Bank - 1.35% Savings (min $500) account review
- Capital One - 1.35% InterestPlus Savings ($2.5K min) quarterly bonuses for $15K+, account review
- American Express Bank - 1.30%, account review
- Colorado Federal Savings Bank - 1.30% ($2.5K min) account review
- Newtown Savings Bank - 1.30%, account review
- Peoples Bank - 1.30% ($10K min) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.29% MMA account review
- CNB Bank Direct - 1.25% account review
- DollarSavingsDirect - 1.20% ($1K min) account review
- Nationwide Bank - 1.20% MMA (min $1K) account review
- WTDirect - 1.16% ($10K min) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Dupaco Community CU - 2.12% ($100K-$150K) (2.63% $200K+) in IL & WI
- Georgia Primary Bank - 1.95% MMA (min $100K) in GA
- Mid America Bank & Trust Company - 1.75% (min $10K) in MO
3-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- Best 3-Month CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Fort Knox FCU - 1.40% (min $500) (1.65% $100K+)
- RiverLand CU - 1.00% (min $1K)
- Danversbank - 1.00% (4 mo) (min $500) account review
- Hudson City Bank - 1.00% (min $5K) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 1.65% (min $500) in NYC
- Atlanta Postal CU - 1.50% (min $2K) in GA
- Bank of Georgetown - 1.40% (4-mo) (min $1K) in Washington DC metro
6-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- Best 6-Month CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Fort Knox FCU - 1.40% (min $500) (1.65% $100K)
- RiverLand CU - 1.25% (min $1K)
- Aurora Bank FSB - 1.23% (min $1K)
- Discover Bank - 1.15% (min $2.5K)
- Country Bank for Savings - 1.15% (min $500) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.14%
- Northrop Grumman FCU - 1.08% (min $40K), account review
- Southeast Financial FCU - 1.00% (min $500) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Luther Burbank Savings - 1.90% (5-mo) (min $10K) in SoCal, account review
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 1.85% (min $500) in NYC
- Industrial Credit Union - 1.65% (min $1K) in MA
- Atlanta Postal CU - 1.60% (min $2K) in GA
- Fayetteville Bank - 1.56% (min $500) (1.71% $100K+) in TX
9-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- AmTrust Direct - 1.25% (min $1K)
- Discover Bank - 1.15% (min $2.5K)
- Hudson City Bank - 1.15% (min $5K) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 1.90% (min $500) in NYC
- Miami Postal Service CU - 1.76% (min $5K) in Miami, FL
- Habib American Bank - 1.50% (min $1.5K) in CA
12-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- Best One-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Melrose CU - 1.76% (min $5K) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 1.75% (14-mo) (min $500)
- Alliant Credit Union - 1.75% (min $25K) account review
- North American Savings Bank - 1.75% (14-mo) (min $1K)
- Franklin Synergy Bank - 1.70% (15-mo) (min $1K) account review
- Sallie Mae Bank - 1.55% (no min) account review
- NewDominion Bank - 1.51% (min $3K) account review
- RiverLand CU - 1.50% (min $1K)
- Discover Bank - 1.50% (min $2.5K) account review
- First City Bank - 1.50% (min $1K) account review
- CNB Bank Direct - 1.50% (min $25K) (shown at the bank's online banking login page)
- Golf Savings Bank - 1.49% (min $10K) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.48% (min $0) account review
- Choice Financial - 1.45% (13 mo) (min $5K) add-on feature, account review
- Country Bank for Savings - 1.40% (15-mo) (min $500) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.35% (11-mo) (min $0) No-Penalty CD
- Delta Community CU - 1.35% (min $1K) account review
- Southeast Financial FCU - 1.30% (min $500) account review
- Northrop Grumman FCU - 1.28% (min $40K), account review
- Bank of Internet - 1.26% (min $1K) account review
- Wilshire State Bank - 1.15% (min $10K), liquid features, account review
- Northwest FCU - 1.00% (min $500) add-on, account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 2.22% (min $500) in NYC
- Salem Co-operative Bank - 2.00% (15-mo) (min $500) in NH & MA
- Industrial Credit Union - 1.85% (min $1K) in MA
- Library of Congress FCU - 1.85% (min $500) in Washington DC
- Atlanta Postal CU - 1.80% (min $2K) in GA
- Progressive Credit Union - 1.76% in NYC
- Habib American Bank - 1.75% (min $1.5K) in CA (0.25% less in NY/NJ)
- Park Sterling Bank - 1.75% (min $1K) in NC
- Atlas Savings & Loan Assoc. - 1.71% (IRA-only) (1.66% non-IRA)(min $2.5K) in NYC
- Fayetteville Bank - 1.71% (min $500) (1.97% $100K+) in TX
- Chartway FCU - 1.60% (min $10K) with chk, in parts of VA, GA, RI, NC, TX, FL, OH & NH
- Prudential Savings Bank - 1.56% (13-mo) (min $5K) in Philadelphia
18-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- Best 18-Month CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Citibank - 4.07% (min $200) (max $5K) requires secured credit card, account review
- Air Force FCU - 2.20% (min $25K) (2.25% $100K+) membership restrictions account review
- Alliant Credit Union - 2.00% (min $25K) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 1.80% (min $500) (2.05% $100K+)
- RiverLand CU - 1.75% (min $1K)
- Pacific Mercantile Bank - 1.71% IRA-only (min $7.5K) account review
- DollarSavingsDirect - 1.65% (min $1K)
- CNB Bank Direct - 1.65% (min $25K) (shown at the bank's online banking login page)
- Discover Bank - 1.60% (min $2.5K), account review
- AmTrust Direct - 1.60% (min $1K) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.59% (no min)
- Acacia Federal - 1.55% (min $500)
- First Savings Bank Northwest - 1.53% unlimited add-on (min $500) account review
- USAA Bank - 1.45% (min $1K) (1.80% $175K min) account review
- Southeast Financial FCU - 1.40% (min $500) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 2.33% (min $500) in NYC
- Habib American Bank - 2.20% (min $1.5K) in CA (0.20% less in NY/NJ)
- Co-op Credit Union - 2.15% (min $1K) in WI
- Greer State Bank - 1.85% (min $5K) in SC
- El Paso Area Teachers FCU - 1.81% (min $50K) in TX
24-Month Certificates of Deposit:
- Best Two-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Fort Knox FCU - 2.30% (23-mo) (min ?)
- Alliant Credit Union - 2.25% (min $25K) account review
- Hudson City Bank - 2.00% (min $5K) account review
- Bank of Internet - 1.94% (min $1K)
- Ally Bank - 1.92% step-up CD
- Wings Financial CU - 1.91% (min $500) Limited Membership, account review
- CNB Bank Direct - 1.85% (min $25K) (shown at the bank's online banking login page)
- Southeast Financial FCU - 1.50% (min $500) account review
- Northwest FCU - 1.36% (min $500) add-on, account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Self Reliance New York FCU - 2.69% (min $500) in NYC
- First Community Bank - 2.50% (22-mo) (min $1K) in IL
- Habib American Bank - 2.50% (min $1.5K) in CA (0.25% less in NY/NJ)
- Dupaco Community CU - 2.36% (27-mo) (min $5K) in IL, WI & IA
- Library of Congress FCU - 2.20% (min $5K) in Washington DC
- Montauk Credit Union - 2.15% in NYC
- Atlanta Postal CU - 2.10% (min $2K) in GA
- Atlas Savings & Loan Assoc. - 2.02% (min $2.5K) in NYC
36-Month Certificate of Deposit:
- Best 3-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- RiverLand CU - 2.50% (min $1K)
- Alliant Credit Union - 2.50% (min $25K) account review
- Acacia Federal Savings Bank - 2.40% (min $500) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 2.40% (min $500) (2.65% $100K+)
- Sallie Mae Bank - 2.40% (no min) account review
- Air Force FCU - 2.35% (min $25K) membership restrictions account review
- Bank of Internet - 2.28% (min $1K)
- USAA Bank - 2.25% (min $1K) (2.56% $175K min) account review
- Hudson City Bank - 2.25% (min $5K) account review
- Pentagon Federal CU - 2.25% (min $1K), account review
- Wings Financial CU - 2.17% (min $500) Limited Membership, account review
- Northrop Grumman FCU - 2.13% (min $40K), account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Habib American Bank - 3.00% (min $1.5K) in CA (0.25% less in NY/NJ)
- Police & Fire Credit Union - 3.00% (min $500) in PA, NJ & DE
- Montauk Credit Union - 2.50% in NYC
- First Federal - 2.30% (min $20K) online app for residents of SC, NC, GA & FL
48-Month Certificate of Deposit:
- Best 4-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Alliant Credit Union - 3.00% (min $25K) account review
- Pentagon Federal CU - 2.76% (min $1K), account review
- Hudson City Bank - 2.75% (min $5K) account review
- Acacia Federal Savings Bank - 2.70% (min $500) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 2.60% (min $500) (2.85% $100K+)
- OneWest Bank - 2.50% (min $5K) account review
- Bank of Internet - 2.50% (min $1K)
- Wings Financial CU - 2.32% (min $500) Limited Membership, account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Police & Fire Credit Union - 3.50% (min $500) in PA, NJ & DE
- Bayer Heritage FCU - 3.17% (min $500) in WV, OH & SC
- LOMTO FCU - 3.00% in NYC
- Montauk Credit Union - 2.75% in NYC
- CEF Credit Union - 2.65% (min $1K) in IL & CA
60-Month Certificate of Deposit:
- Best 5-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Noteworthy Accounts Available Nationwide:
- Melrose CU - 3.29% (min $5K) account review
- Northrop Grumman FCU - 3.06% (min $40K), account review
- Navy FCU - 3.00% ($20K min) restrictions to membership, account review
- Hudson City Bank - 3.00% (min $5K) account review
- RiverLand CU - 3.00% (min $1K)
- Pentagon Federal CU - 3.00% (min $1K), account review
- Mountain America CU - 3.00% (min $1K) account review
- USAA Bank - 3.00% (min $1K) (3.31% $175K min) account review
- Sallie Mae Bank - 3.00% (no min) account review
- Fort Knox FCU - 3.00% (min $500) (3.25% $100K+)
- Acacia Federal Savings Bank - 2.95% (min $500) account review
- Ally Bank - 2.94% (min $0) account review
- EverBank - 2.84% ($1.5K min) account review
- Wings Financial CU - 2.83% (min $500) Limited Membership, account review
- OneWest Bank - 2.80% (min $5K) account review
- BankUnited - 2.75% (min $5K) account review
- Dime Savings Bank - 2.75% (min $500) account review
- Connexus CU - 2.50% (min $1K) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Police & Fire Credit Union - 4.00% (min $500) in PA, NJ & DE
- Bayer Heritage FCU - 3.43% (min $500) in WV, OH & SC
- Ohio Valley Community CU - 3.35% (min $1K) in OH
- Montauk Credit Union - 3.25% in NYC
- LOMTO FCU - 3.25% in NYC
- Capitol Credit Union - 3.04% (min $1K) in Austin, TX
- City National Bank - 3.00% (min $500) in NY, PA, NJ
- CEF Credit Union - 2.90% (min $500) (3.00% $100K+) in IL & CA
84-Month Certificate of Deposit:
- Best 6+-Year CD Rates (Nationwide & by State)
- Navy FCU - 3.66% ($20K min) restrictions to membership, account review
- USAA Bank - 3.55% (min $1K) (3.86% $175K min) account review
- Pentagon Federal CU - 3.51% (min $1K), account review
- Discover Bank - 3.25% (min $2.5K) (3.50% 10yr) account review
- Apple FCU - 3.20% (min $50K) (3.65% 10yr) account review
- Bank of America DOW - 2.86% (10-yr) (min $1K) account review
- Noteworthy Accounts - Local Only
- Montauk Credit Union - 3.75% in NYC
- West Town Savings Bank - 3.30% (min $1K) in Chicagoland
Various Deposit Account Deals
- Bank Deals Forum
- Checking/Savings Account Bonuses
- Best IRA CD rates, local and nationwide deals
- Latest CD and Savings Account Deals with No Major Deposit Limitiations
Bank Account Alternatives
- GE Interest Plus - 1.70% rate for $50k+
- Paypal Money Market Fund - 0.15% 7-day yield (1% cashback debit MasterCard)
- Vanguard Tax-Exempt Money Market Fund - 0.12% 7-day yield
- Vanguard Prime Money Market Fund - 0.11% 7-day yield
- Fidelity Money Market Fund - 0.06% 7-day yield (reviews on Fatwallet)
- Fidelity Municipal Money Market Fund - 0.01% 7-day yield
- TIAA-CREF Money Market Fund - 0.00% 7-day yield
- FW Thread on Treasury Bills
- I Bonds for 2010, I Bond Article, I Bonds as CD Alternatives
Historical Rates from the Federal Reserve (Federal funds, Treasury bills, CD's)









Anonymous - #1, Monday, July 19, 2010 - 6:35 AM
Other parts of the bill will likely be bad for many savers with reward checking accounts and cash-back credit cards. What will happen with cash-back credit cards?
Anonymous - #2, Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 2:20 PM
to 1 what ??????
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