Survey of the Best CD Rates for October 26, 2012

The big news for CD savers this week was the Ally Bank's new amendment to its deposit agreement which gives it the right to refuse an early withdrawal request. Ally Bank maintains that the policy has not changed, and that "Ally Bank ordinarily will consent to the early withdrawal of a CD as long as the depositor pays the penalty." Nevertheless, due to the deposit agreement change, it can't be said that an early withdrawal at some point in the future is guaranteed. As I described in my review of this news, we have been aware of the risks of depending on early withdrawals. This latest news highlights those risks.
An important reason to want an early withdrawal is to move your money into a higher paying CD. Ally Bank's 4-year Raise Your Rate CD can make an early withdrawal unnecessary since it gives the option of bumping up the rate twice before maturity. Unfortunately, that became less of a deal this week. The 4-year RYR CD yield fell from 1.44% to 1.35%. That was the biggest rate cut for that CD this year. Ally Bank's 5-year CD yield also had a rate cut this week, but it was just a small cut. The yield fell from 1.66% to 1.65%.
There are two other banks that have CDs with a raise-your-rate feature that have become better deals than Ally's RYR CDs. The first is CIT Bank which has a 1.10% APY 1-year CD and a 1.25% APY 2-year CD. Both of these CDs have the raise-your-rate feature with one bump-up option. These also allow one add-on deposit. The other bank is Citizens State Bank in Florida which has a special 3-year Raise Your Rate CD. It has an online application that's currently open to anyone in the nation. This 3-year CD gives the customer one option to bump-up the rate.
There's a new 5-year CD rate leader for the nationally available accounts. However, the extra hassles required may not be worth the higher rate for some. The institution is Stanford Federal Credit Union in California. It's an all-access credit union which can be joined via an association. Its Premium Certificate with a $100K minimum deposit has a 2.12% APY. To qualify for this yield the member must either have a current loan or a checking account with a monthly direct deposit of $500.
There are still 6 institutions with 2.00% APY 5-year CDs that are nationally available. One is the small Citizens State Bank in Florida. The other 5 are all-access credit unions.
One thing to consider is that we may lose some of these 2% CDs in November. Patelco Credit Union has announced that October 31st is the last day for its special 2% APY 7-year CD.
Local CD Deals
There were a few rate cuts for the local deals this week. Biscayne Bank in Miami reduced its 1-year CD yield from 1.10% to 1.00%. That drop was enough to knock the bank off my list.
Denver Community Credit Union had long been offering a 2.35% APY 5-year CD. That yield fell 25 basis points this week.
Frontier State Bank in Oklahoma City slashed its 10-year CD yield from 2.02% to 1.51%. That was enough to knock it off of my list. The yield had been 2.42% back in August.
Finally, San Antonio Credit Union (SACU) cut its CD rates by 5 basis points. Its 10-year CD remains the overall rate leader with a 3.25% APY. SACU has been cutting this rate almost every other week. In July the yield had been 3.55%.
There was only one addition to the local list this week, and it's another Texas credit union. Texas seems to have more than its share of CD deals. This new one is at Generations Federal Credit Union in San Antonio. Its offering a special 1.50% APY CD with terms from 18 to 21 months.
Long-Term CD Break Strategy
For the short-term CDs in my lists, you might notice CDs with the note "5-year CD closed after X years". These take into account the yield after the early withdrawal penalty is applied. Since Ally Bank's 5-year CD only has a 60-day interest penalty, it's still a good deal when closed early even with the recent rate cuts.
The risks of planning for early withdrawals of long-term CDs were recently highlighted by the deposit agreement change at Ally. The risks have also been seen at credit unions which have raised the early withdrawal penalties on existing CDs. I have more details in this blog post.
Note About the CD Survey
As I described in my rate table overview, you can use our CD rate tables to find the best rates for both nationally available CDs and local CDs. This CD survey blog posts are intended to highlight nationwide CD deals that may not be apparent in the tables. For example, I'll include the post-penalty yields of a few long-term CDs.
The CD survey blog posts are also intended to highlight the local CD deals that are available in large metro areas. There are many high CD rates, but most of these are at small banks in rural areas or at small credit unions with very narrow fields of membership. In these local CD surveys, my focus is on local CD deals that are in big cities or that are available in large areas of a state.
Yields Accurate as of October 26, 2012
Under 1-Year CD Rates
- EverBank - 1.25% checking/MMA intro 6-month rate ($100K/$50K max) account review
- Ally Bank - 1.10% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 6 months, see review & risks)
- Connexus Credit Union - 1.00% 6-month CD w/active chk
- Doral Bank Direct - 0.96% 9-month CD, account review
- Ally Bank - 0.95% 11-month No-Penalty CD, see account review
- Doral Bank Direct - 0.91% 6-month CD, account review
- Barclays - 0.85% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 6 months, see review & risks)
- Colorado Federal Savings Bank - 0.80% 6-month CD
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- HomeBanc N.A. - 1.50% ($75K max) 3-month CD (Central Florida)
- Habib American Bank - 1.10% 6-month CD special at new Iselin branch (New Jersey)
- Gulf Coast Credit Union - 1.10% 6-month CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 1.05% ($250K) 0.95% ($100K) 0.85% ($1K) 7-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- Veridian Credit Union - 1.00% ($100K) 0.80% ($1K) 7-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- First Choice Bank - 1.00% ($50K) 0.95% ($2.5K) 288-day CD (Los Angeles & Orange County, CA)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 1.00% 6-month CD (parts of New York City)
1-Year CD Rates
- Ally Bank - 1.37% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 1 year, see review & risks)
- Barclays - 1.27% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 1 year, see review & risks)
- AloStar Bank of Commerce - 1.11% 1-year CD
- CIT Bank - 1.10% ($25K min) add-on & bump-up 1-year CD
- Bank of Internet USA - 1.10% 1-year CD
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- Central Missouri Community Credit Union - 1.51% 1-year CD (Central MO)
- City County Credit Union - 1.51% 1-year IRA-only CD (many FL counties)
- Gulf Coast Credit Union - 1.50% 12-month CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- Community Trust Bank - 1.40% (w/dd) 1.15% (w/chk) 0.90% 13-month CD, review (parts of TX, LA & MS)
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 1.35% ($250K) 1.25% ($100K) 1.15% ($1K) 13-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- General Electric Credit Union - 1.26% ($100K) 1-year CD (Cincinnati OH metro)
- Co-op Credit Union - 1.25% 1-year CD (parts of Wisconsin)
- South Florida FCU - 1.25% 1-year CD (SEG in SE Florida)
- Security Service Federal Credit Union - 1.25% ($100K) 1.10% ($500) 15-month CD (parts of TX and UT, lower rates in CO)
- Habib American Bank - 1.20% 1-year CD special at new Iselin branch (New Jersey)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 1.20% 1-year CD (parts of New York City)
- Doral Bank NY - 1.10% 1-year CD (NYC)
- First Choice Bank - 1.05% ($50K) 1.00% ($2.5K) 366-day CD (Los Angeles & Orange County, CA)
- BBVA Compass - 1.00% 15-month CD (parts of AZ, CA, CO, NM, AL, FL, TX)
18-month CD Rates
- Ally Bank - 1.47% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 18 months, see review & risks)
- Barclays - 1.41% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 18 months, see review & risks)
- Salem Five Direct - 1.15% 18-month CD
- NexBank - 1.15% 18-month CD, account review
- MetLife Bank - 1.12% 18-month CD
- Doral Bank Direct - 1.09% 18-month CD, account review
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- Gulf Coast Credit Union - 1.65% 18-month CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- Workers Credit Union - 1.50% 18-month CD w/chk+dd (MA & Southern NH)
- Generations Federal Credit Union - 1.50% 18-21-month CD special (San Antonio, TX)
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 1.45% ($250K) 1.35% ($100K) 1.25% ($1K) 16-month CD special (several parts of Iowa)
- Veridian Credit Union - 1.35% ($100K) 1.15% ($1K) 15-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- El Paso Area Teachers FCU - 1.31% ($50K) 1.21% ($500) 18-month CD (El Paso, TX)
- Texell Credit Union - 1.30% 18-month CD (Central Texas)
- Libertad Bank - 1.25% 18-month CD (Texas)
- Meetinghouse Bank - 1.20% 18-month CD (Boston, MA)
- Valley Green Bank - 1.20% 18-month CD (Philadelphia, PA)
- Shell Federal Credit Union - 1.20% ($50K) 1.15% ($500) 18-month CD (Houston, TX)
- Doral Bank NY - 1.15% 18-month CD (NYC)
- First Choice Bank - 1.10% ($50K) 1.05% ($2.5K) 541-day CD (Los Angeles & Orange County, CA)
2-Year CD Rates
- Ally Bank - 1.51% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 2 years, see review & risks)
- Sandia Laboratory FCU - 1.51% ($200K) 1.41% ($100K) 1.31% ($50K) 1.21% ($1K) 2-year CD
- Barclays - 1.49% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 2 years, see review & risks)
- Citizens State Bank - 1.36% ($100K) 1.21% ($1K) 2-year CD, account review
- NexBank - 1.30% 2-year CD, account review
- Connexus Credit Union - 1.30% 2-year CD w/active chk
- AloStar Bank of Commerce - 1.26% 2-year CD
- Northwest Federal Credit Union - 1.26% ($100K) 1.15% ($25K) 2-year CD (+0.25% w/relationship)
- CIT Bank - 1.25% ($25K min) add-on & bump-up 2-year CD
- Melrose Credit Union - 1.21% 2-year CD
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- Gulf Coast Credit Union - 1.85% 2-year CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- Patriot Community Bank - 1.60% 2-year CD (Boston metro, MA)
- Veridian Credit Union - 1.55% ($100K) 1.35% ($1K) 25-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- Doral Bank NY - 1.50% 2-year CD (NYC)
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 1.50% ($250K) 1.40% ($100K) 1.30% ($1K) 25-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 1.40% 2-year CD (parts of New York City)
- Wings Financial Credit Union - 1.31% 2-year CD (Seattle & Minneapolis Metro areas)
- BBVA Compass - 1.25% 2-year CD (parts of AZ, CA, CO, NM, AL, FL, TX)
3-Year CD Rates
- Wilshire State Bank - 2.28% 3-year installment savings account w/auto xfers (account review)
- Connexus Credit Union - 1.75% 3-year CD w/active chk
- Sandia Laboratory FCU - 1.61% ($200K) 1.51% ($100K) 1.41% ($50K) 1.31% ($1K) 3-year CD
- Ally Bank - 1.56% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 3 years, see review & risks)
- Barclays - 1.56% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 3 years, see review & risks)
- Salem Five Direct - 1.50% 30-month CD
- Citizens State Bank - 1.50% ($5K) 3-year Raise Your Rate CD, account review
- Melrose Credit Union - 1.46% 3-year CD
- CIT Bank - 1.44% ($100K) 1.42% ($1K) 3-year CD
- NexBank - 1.40% 3-year CD, account review
- Northwest Federal Credit Union - 1.40% ($100K) 1.30% ($25K) 3-year CD (+0.25% w/relationship)
- Discover Bank - 1.35% 3-year CD
- Pentagon Federal Credit Union - 1.34% (2.02% 7-year CD closed after 3 years, see review & risks)
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- NavyArmy Community Credit Union - 3.00% 30-month CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 2.20% ($250K) 2.10% ($100K) 2.00% ($1K) 37-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- Encompass Credit Union - 2.02% 3-year CD (Central Indiana)
- Sea Comm Federal Credit Union - 2.02% 3-year CD (Northern NY)
- Gulf Coast Credit Union - 2.02% 3-year CD (Corpus Christi, TX metro)
- Veridian Credit Union - 1.90% ($100K) 1.70% ($1K) 39-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- One Source Federal Credit Union - 1.86% ($50K) 1.76% ($1K) 3-year CD (El Paso, TX)
- Dover Federal Credit Union - 1.75% 3-year CD (Delaware)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 1.75% 3-year CD (parts of New York City)
- Wings Financial Credit Union - 1.71% 3-year CD (Seattle & Minneapolis Metro areas)
- Doral Bank NY - 1.65% 3-year CD (NYC)
- Knoxville TVA Employees Credit Union - 1.60% 34-month CD (Knoxville, TN metro)
4-Year CD Rates
- Citizens State Bank - 1.77% ($100K) 1.61% ($1K) 4-year CD, account review
- Andrews Federal Credit Union - 1.71% 4-year CD
- Melrose Credit Union - 1.71% 4-year CD
- Communitywide Federal Credit Union - 1.70% 49-month special CD
- Alliant Credit Union - 1.65% 4-year CD
- Nationwide Bank - 1.61% ($100K) 1.56% ($500) 4-year CD
- Ally Bank - 1.58% (1.65% 5-year CD closed after 4 years, see review & risks)
- Barclays - 1.59% (1.70% 5-year CD closed after 4 years, see review & risks)
- Discover Bank - 1.55% 4-year CD
- Pentagon Federal Credit Union - 1.51% (2.02% 7-year CD closed after 4 years, see review & risks)
- Barclays - 1.45% 4-year CD
- Ally Bank - 1.35% Raise-Your-Rate 4-year CD
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- University of Iowa Community Credit Union - 2.35% ($250K) 2.25% ($100K) 2.15% ($1K) 49-month CD (several parts of Iowa)
- Sea Comm Federal Credit Union - 2.25% 4-year CD (Northern NY)
- SECNY Federal Credit Union - 2.00% ($50K) 1.90% ($1K) 4-year CD (Central NY)
- Co-op Credit Union - 2.00% 4-year CD (parts of Wisconsin)
- HAPO Community Credit Union - 2.00% 4-year CD (all of Washington State)
- Dover Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 4-year CD (Delaware)
- S-Bank - 2.00% 4-year CD (Massachusetts)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 4-year CD (parts of New York City)
- One Source Federal Credit Union - 1.97% ($50K) 1.87% ($1K) 4-year CD (El Paso, TX)
- Shell Federal Credit Union - 1.90% ($50K) 1.85% ($500) 4-year CD (Houston, TX)
- Wings Financial Credit Union - 1.86% 4-year CD (Seattle & Minneapolis Metro areas)
- Resource One Credit Union - 1.80% ($90K) 1.70% ($500) 4-year CD (Houston & Dallas area)
- Empower Federal Credit Union - 1.75% ($100K) 1.60% ($10K) 4-year CD, extra 0.25% for seniors w/dd (western NY)
- Doral Bank NY - 1.75% 4-year CD (NYC)
5-Year CD Rates
- Stanford Federal Credit Union - 2.12% ($100K) 5-year CD, requires chk w/dd, account review
- Citizens State Bank - 2.00% ($100K) 1.85% ($1K) 5-year CD, account review
- Pinnacle Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD, account review
- Mountain America Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD, account review
- Pen Air Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD
- Connexus Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD w/active chk
- Communitywide Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD
- Melrose Credit Union - 1.96% 5-year CD
- State Bank of India, New York - 1.81% 5-year CD
- CIT Bank - 1.85% ($100K) 1.80% ($1K) 5-year CD
- Nationwide Bank - 1.85% ($100K) 1.80% ($500) 5-year CD
- Discover Bank - 1.75% 5-year CD
- Barclays - 1.70% 5-year CD
- Ally Bank - 1.65% 5-year CD
- Pentagon Federal Credit Union - 1.61% (2.02% 7-year CD closed after 5 years, see review & risks)
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- American Airlines Credit Union - 3.09% 5-yr/1.81% 2.5-yr CD ladder (limited membership)
- Belmont Savings Bank - 3.00% ($25K max, active checking required) 5-year CD (Massachusetts)
- Encompass Credit Union - 2.53% 5-year CD (Central Indiana)
- Sea Comm Federal Credit Union - 2.49% 5-year CD (Northern NY)
- One Source Federal Credit Union - 2.37% ($50K) 2.27% ($1K) 5-year CD (El Paso, TX)
- General Electric Credit Union - 2.33% 5-year CD (Cincinnati OH metro)
- Security Service Federal Credit Union - 2.30% ($100K) 2.15% ($500) 5-year CD (parts of Texas, lower rates in CO and UT)
- Ukrainian Selfreliance FCU - 2.30% ($75K) 2.25% ($500) 5-year CD (Philadelphia, PA)
- Dover Federal Credit Union - 2.25% 5-year CD (Delaware)
- SACU - 2.20% ($90K) 2.15% ($10K) 5-year CD (San Antonio, TX)
- SECNY Federal Credit Union - 2.20% ($50K) 2.00% ($1K) 5-year CD (Central NY)
- LOMTO Federal Credit Union - 2.20% 5-year CD (parts of New York City)
- Shell Federal Credit Union - 2.20% ($50K) 2.15% ($500) 5-year CD (Houston, TX)
- Idaho Central Credit Union - 2.15% 5-year bump-up CD (Idaho)
- Wings Financial Credit Union - 2.12% 5-year CD (Seattle & Minneapolis Metro areas)
- Denver Community Credit Union - 2.10% ($50K) 1.85% ($100) 5-year CD (Denver County)
- HAPO Community Credit Union - 2.10% 5-year CD (all of Washington State)
- Texell Credit Union - 2.10% 5-year CD (Central Texas)
- Resource One Credit Union - 2.10% ($90K) 2.00% ($500) 5-year CD (Houston & Dallas area)
- Mid American Credit Union - 2.10% 5-year CD (Kansas)
- Empower Federal Credit Union - 2.05% ($100K) 1.90% ($10K) 5-year CD, extra 0.25% for seniors w/dd (Northwest NY)
- Randolph Bank & Trust Company - 2.02% 5-year special CD (North Carolina)
- HEW Federal Credit Union - 2.02% 5-year CD (DC metro area)
- S-Bank - 2.00% 5-year CD (Massachusetts)
- American Eagle Bank of Chicago - 2.00% (relationship checking required) 5-year CD (Chicago, IL)
- Freedom Credit Union - 2.00% add-on 5-year CD (Philadelphia)
- Police and Fire Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 5-year CD (Pennsylvania)
- BBVA Compass - 2.00% 5-year CD (parts of AZ, CA, CO, NM, AL, FL, TX)
- Miami Postal Service Credit Union - 1.91% 5-year CD (Southeast FL)
Over 5-Year CD Rates
- Fidelity Brokered CD - 2.45% 10-year CD (new issue from GE Capital, call protected) see review
- Air Force FCU - 2.25% ($100K) 2.20% ($2.5K) 7-year CD
- Navy Federal Credit Union - 2.15% ($100K) 2.05% ($20K) 7-year CD (membership restrictions)
- Discover Bank - 2.10% 10-year CD
- Pentagon Federal Credit Union - 2.02% 7-year CD
- Northrop Grumman FCU - 2.01% ($40K) 1.86% ($2.5K) 7-year CD
- Navy Federal Credit Union - 2.00% ($100K) 1.90% ($20K) 6-year CD (membership restrictions)
- Patelco Credit Union - 2.00% 7-year CD
- Discover Bank - 2.00% 7-year CD
- Apple Federal Credit Union - 2.00% 10-year CD
- Dime Savings Bank - 1.70% 7-year CD
- Noteworthy Local Deals
- SACU - 3.25% ($90K) 3.20% ($10K) 10-year CD (San Antonio, TX)
- SACU - 2.75% ($100K) 2.70% ($10K) 7-year (San Antonio, TX)
- Security Service Federal Credit Union - 2.85% ($100K) 2.70% ($500) 7-year CD (parts of Texas, lower rates in CO and UT)
- Workers Credit Union - 2.50% 6-year CD w/chk+dd (MA & Southern NH)
- Empower Federal Credit Union - 2.05% ($100K) 1.90% ($10K) 7-year CD, extra 0.25% for seniors w/dd (Northwest NY)
- Gateway Metro Federal Credit Union - 2.05% 6-year CD (St. Louis metro)
- Randolph-Brooks Federal Credit Union - 2.02% ($75K) 2.02% ($20K) 7-year CD (San Antonio & Austin, TX)
- Randolph-Brooks Federal Credit Union - 1.87% ($75K) 1.87% ($20K) 6-year CD (San Antonio & Austin, TX)
Note: All rates listed above are Annual Percentage Yields (APY) which factor in compounding.









Kaight - #1, Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 8:22 AM
In my view "Raise Your Rate" (RYR) CDs have never been attractive. It is too easy for the bank or CU to circumvent need to raise rates on existing CDs. Here is just one example of how it would work; there are many, many variations on this theme:
You buy a three year RYR CD today at a slightly reduced rate . . supposedly because the CD offers you prospects for a higher rate in future if rates rise in general.
Time passes.
Down the line rates do rise in general. But instead of boosting its three year rate, the bank or CU offers new depositors a "37 month special" rate. It's a high rate for virtually the same term as your three year CD. But it's not a three year CD so your RYR benefit does not apply.
RYR CDs are not for me. There are too many ways for the bank or CU to "cheat".
Anonymous - #2, Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 9:01 AM
Kaight - Although I have a couple of 'raise your rate' type of CD's, I suspect that you may be right-on in this regard and would not be at all surprised if the banks and CU's were to pull something like that. I purchased these cd's in the 'hope' of a possible higher return later in the event the early withdrawals, on cd's in general, are prohibited as rates may begin to rise and the stampede to the door begins. Although my expectations on these cd's are low, one can never tell....
Hal B (anonymous) - #3, Monday, October 29, 2012 - 8:41 AM
I don't know why Ken is not posting the rates of the credit unions that he follows that are higher than those shown here.
This is especially true for some of the ones listed above. Someone at this organization is doing a poor job. I know as a fact that one of the credit unions that Ken"s group is following has a 5 year 100k cd that pays higher then the Stanford without requiring you to have a checking account.
Last week I mentioned that this post didn't have State Dept FCU listed and I note that it still isn't listed.
I wonder if it is because some are paying Ken to list and that is why the higher rates are not showing up.
lou - #4, Monday, October 29, 2012 - 1:36 PM
Hal B, beside State Dept FCU, what other credit unions have higher rates and are not listed here?
Hal B (anonymous) - #5, Monday, October 29, 2012 - 3:33 PM
State Dept is like Melrose.
Pen Air FCU for $100,000, call them to get the $100,000 rate. Ken has this credit union's rate for less than $100,000 shown at 2%
Ken should have done a better job at getting this credit unions complete rate.
lou - #6, Monday, October 29, 2012 - 4:19 PM
Hal B, any other examples?
Paoli2 - #7, Monday, October 29, 2012 - 4:37 PM
Hal B: I think Ken has certain criteria for banks and credit unions he lists. I don't think it has anything to do with them "paying" to get listed. In my experience, if a bank or cu has a much higher rate than what is the "going" rate at the time, it is usually in trouble and trying to lure depositors with higher rates. I don't care how much higher a rate is, I won't touch a bank or cu which doesn't have at least a four star rating. Maybe a 3 star if research on it proves it is in good shape in the important areas. I appreciate the fact that Ken or whoever is doing this for him doesn't just list them according to rates but overall financial shape. It makes my research much easier.
Anonymous - #8, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 1:45 PM
replying to paoli2
I checked out what hal b said and he is right and Pen Air has very good ratings from both Bauer and bankrate. Looks like you don't know what you are saying,you just like to see your words in print. Take a break from this blog.
Anonymous - #9, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 2:05 PM
Replying to Anonymous #8: I was not referring to Pen Air but giving my opinion of what the poster said about Ken. Who are you to decide who can post on this blog? YOU take a break so you won't have to read MY words! What nerve!
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