Monday, January 28, 2013 - 1:14 AM

Hypocrites

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I'm the son of a Vietnam vet who was wounded in war and received a purple heart. He was honorably discharged yet I was told by Navy fcu that I can't join because my father didn't retire from the military! Hello! He took a bullet for our country! He was attacked with nerve gases! It's kind of hard to retire from any job after all of that. Needless to say, I aim to contact the local media and write to the DOD, VA, and the President in regards to this. I think it's a slap in the face to those who get wounded while protecting us to tell them that they nor their children can join an institution that was created for the military in which they served!

Vietnamvetson696 posts since
Jan 28, 2013
Rep Points: 9

1. Monday, January 28, 2013 - 5:27 AM

You didn't mention if your father was a member of the credit union. If he was and his account(s) are active, then by relationship you should be able to become a member. If not a member and you want to become a member just because he served doubt that will happen. There are several other mil affiliated credit unions you can become a member of without having actually served. Check this site and do some research. I'm sure you will find one that satisfies your requirements.

Edit: I might also add that the NFCU as well as others were not created by the military for the military. The military is not in the banking business. They were started and set their criteria to cater primarily to military personnel and their qualified dependents. Thats like me saying that I use the federal postal system, therefore I should be able to become a member of my local postal credit union. That can't happen either because they only cater to past and present postal workers and their dependents.

klink73 posts since
Dec 8, 2012
Rep Points: 189

2. Monday, January 28, 2013 - 9:53 AM

I am myself a disabled veteren (discharged, NOT retired). I would not be able to join either, since I am not active duty or retired from the military. I sometimes qualify for Veteran status, and sometimes do not because the organization may limit it to active dutry or retired. That's just the way it is.

So, .... other than being a name-caller, what did YOU do to be in a position for any military related status?

PS - Please thank your dad for HIS service!

Anon45616 posts since
Oct 30, 2011
Rep Points: 43

3. Monday, January 28, 2013 - 10:28 AM

VVson69: Thank him from me too. Hello! If anyone has a right to be indignant, it's your father, not you. You can bet he already knows that sometimes things don't always go how you want even if you whine and stomp your feet and want the rules bent just because you don't think they should apply to you. He must be proud that his service made it possible for his son to think of himself as a special little snowflake.

Well said Klink and Anon456.

Anon123411 posts since
Dec 14, 2010
Rep Points: 57

4. Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 8:18 AM

That's just the way it is. I get what everyone is saying. NFCU is a separate entity and is entitled to set up its rules the way it chooses. I get that. Just because something is the way it is doesn't mean it can't be changed. If you listen to the rhetoric you'll here that we value those who are serving in the military and their families. We value those who has retired from the military and their families. Those of you who served but could not retire because you were injured while serving, we don't value you as much but thanks for serving. What about those who died while serving? Are they not valued as well? NFCU isn't breaking any laws, but that's not to say they won't change their criteria if given enough negative publicity. By the way, no my farther isn't a member and isn't eligible because he was"honorably"discharged.

Vietnamvetson696 posts since
Jan 28, 2013
Rep Points: 9

5. Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 8:32 AM

Anon456 what did I do? You do know that sons daughters and grandchildren of those who are serving can join too.What did they do. I'll tell you what I did. I watched sometime who was so traumatized from a war beat on his wife until it got to the point that she left him. My siblings and I were beaten also because of his condition. I witnessed a man who nearly drank himself to death because he couldn't cope. I took my father, a vet back and forth to the VA hospital while trying to raise a family of my own. I had to deal with being awaken on numerous nights because my father thought the Japs were coming. I had to deal with my father threatening us with his shotgun because he was out of his mind half the time. This was a man who was the perfect husband and one hell of an athlete before the war. To answer your question, that's what I did.

Vietnamvetson696 posts since
Jan 28, 2013
Rep Points: 9

6. Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 9:02 AM

Vvs:

"Family Members—including grandparents, parents, spouses, siblings, grandchildren, children (including adopted and stepchildren) and household members

Once your family members have joined, they can extend the membership opportunity to their family members, too."

You cannot join because your father did not join (or was not eligible). Your father has to be a NFCU member before you can qualify.

Rules are rules. Like you said, Go through normal channels to petition for a change if you feel the rules are not fair in this instance.

No fault on the part of NFCU (IMHO), they have to go by current rules, as the military people are fully aware and respectful of.

Agree with Klink, et. al. There are tons of credit unions you can join without such magnitude of protest and anger. Why go to such extremes? Just a friendly input:-)

High regards/respect to your father and all those who sacrifice for our country!

Cheers.

51hh1,041 posts since
Jan 16, 2010
Rep Points: 4,753

7. Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM

You are right, rules are rules. When women weren't allowed in the workplace rules were rules. No fault if the CEOs. When slavery was the law of the land, rules were rules. No fault of the plantation owners. When only white males are allowed to join a country club. No fault there either. Those who enjoy the benefits are always going to be "respectful"of the rules. You're saying nfcu have to go by the guidelines as if they didn't help set them. I understand I am amongst members which explains the opposition, but the majority isn't always right. I will go through the proper channels and even if I'm unsuccessful at bringing change about I will at least turn heads. Perhaps you all should rent the movie "Something the Lord Made". Thank God they didn't accept that rules are rules.

Vietnamvetson696 posts since
Jan 28, 2013
Rep Points: 9

8. Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:32 PM

This is a friendly forum that Ken nicely established. The main purpose is at least two-fold: (1) to contribute in financial-related topics, (2) raise issues/complaints/suggestions to FIs.

You have stated your case and all here gave you friendly and helpful inputs the best we could. You chose to ignore all comments and proceed with your own revolutional approach. Sorry, but womens' rights and slavery systems have nothing to do with your points here. You cannot convince anyone here that you have a case and we cannot convince you otherwise; there are no points for further discussions, IMHO.

Let's move on and good luck with your protest:-)

Peace.

As help/hint to you, your time may be better spent on "hidden" (or indirect) ways to join NFCU; e.g., http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/arcmessageview.php?start=0&catid=52&threadid=1030001

The suggested way was shut; but if one uses innovation, one may still find ways... rather than fighting them. Good luck!

51hh1,041 posts since
Jan 16, 2010
Rep Points: 4,753