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Monday, February 18, 2013 - 12:48 PM

1.26% Savings Rate (Share Account)

Apco Employees Credit Union (4 stars)
Recently opened an account here. My mother is a member which was my "in" but I asked the teller and she said they take customers words for it so if you were to join and say you worked for apco or one of the other groups, they wouldnt question you over it.

The share account pays interest quarterly which is unusual.

Im not clear on how long their rate has been 1.26% or how long it will continue.

But, since capone has taken over ING, I began seriously looking for a better place for my 6 figure account and APCO was the best i could find. I just hope it continues.

I guess they have a free checking account that pays interest too.

But, I maintain my ING account for my checking for now as well as a small savings there. I had intended to switch my checking to Ally but their format is not as good. And you cant tell from your account any future trransfers.

Hopefully, I will get off my duff and invest most of my money rather than letting it sit at such low rates.

I did recently buy shares in APCOs parent, Southern Company. Nice dividend yield at about 4.5% and a terrific long term track record of total returns.  My first utility. Considering buying others because a number of them also have good long term track records and good yields.

 

In the past, I took much more risk as an investor but over the last 7-8 years, Ive had a number of situations work out via buyouts mergers or sales and I have not been able to reinvest all the proceeds. So the cash sits in savings accounts.

Thats got to change.

 

My goal for SO is at least a 10% total return but even if I just earn the dividend and no capital gains over the long term, thats better than a savings account or a CD.

 

And I set my account up to reinvest the dividends since I dont need the cash.
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RJMRJM57 posts since
Jan 21, 2011
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1. Monday, February 18, 2013 - 6:39 PM
RJM, do you live in Alabama?
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loulou351 posts since
Aug 3, 2010
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2. Monday, February 18, 2013 - 7:06 PM
Ya think ?

 

LOL
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RJMRJM57 posts since
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3. Monday, February 18, 2013 - 7:17 PM
"Recently opened an account here. My mother is a member which was my "in" but I asked the teller and she said they take customers words for it so if you were to join and say you worked for apco or one of the other groups, they wouldnt question you over it."

This statement from your post is the reason why I asked. If you apply out-of-state, I am assuming they are going to question you.
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loulou351 posts since
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4. Monday, February 18, 2013 - 10:17 PM
I walked in a branch. I suspect they dont get many applications by mail.
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RJMRJM57 posts since
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5. Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 10:49 AM
Lou, while I would not necessarily recommend lying in order to obtain a membership as that is likely to come back to bite you in the ass sometime down the line, the out of state issue is probably a non-issue -- because you can qualify simply by being a relative -- blood or in-law -- of a current member. Relatives live all over the place, not necessarily in the same state. 
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me1004me1004292 posts since
Jan 16, 2010
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6. Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 11:12 AM
I got the distinct impression from the teller that they do NOT, as policy, question members, she said their policy was to take your word for it.

But even if one did lie, I dont see how it could come back to bite you in the ass. I mean, worst case would be they close your account. But I cant imagine that happening.

But, if they got dozens of applications from out of state for 6 figure accounts, who knows, their policy might change.

I do know that a number of their employee groups are VERY small. Obviously, Alabama Power is not but the one my mother belongs to, has, at most, a dozen employees and possibly only 2-3. The largest would be Southern Company which has over 26,000 employees over 4 states.

Which suggests that pretty much any "employer" who asks can get their company qualified.

 

Companies and Groups Served By APCO Employees Credit Union
Alabama Power Company
Southern Company Services
Southern Nuclear
Southern Linc
Mirant Corporation
ACE Industries
ADS Security
Aerotek
Affordable Security and Protection
Air Engineers LLC
Alabama Federation of Womens Clubs
Alabama Outpatient Surgery Center
Alabaster Water Board
American Pipe & Supply
Anchor Packaging Co
Angel & Lee
Asplundh Tree Expert Company
Auto Electric & Carburetor
Balch Bingham Law Firm
BancTec Systems
Bayside Surety Brokerage
BCP Technical Services
Beacon Hope Church of God
Bessemer Bar Association
Bethel Old School Baptist
Bevill State Community College
Birmingham Baptist Minister Conference
Birmingham Pain Center
Birmingham Racing Commission
Birmingham Transit Authority
Birmingham Water Works
B L Harbert International
Boatright Railroad Products
Brewster Road Alliance Church
Cassady & Self Glass
CB&A Project Management
Central Fire Protection
Centralite Systems
CFast
Chamber of Commerce of West AL
Cheney Lime & Cement Co
Chesnut Ridge HOA
Chickasaw Civic Theatre
Chilton Water Authority
Christopher Baker, DMD
Church of the Living Waters
CIE Wire & Cable Inc
Citadel Broadcasting
City of Adamsville
City of Alabaster
City of Bessemer
City of Brighton
City of Dora
City of Fairfield
City of Gardendale
City of Graysville
City of Homewood
City of Hoover
City of Hueytown
City of Leeds
City of Lipscomb
City of Midfield
City of Mountain Brook
City of Pelham
City of Pleasant Grove
City of Spanish Fort
City of Sumiton
City of Tarrant
City of Trussville
Cloverdale Baptist - Dothan
Consolidated Electrical Contractors
Craft Electric Co.
CRH North America, Inc. - Clanton
Cross Roads Church of God
Crowne Partners, Inc.
Daily Access Concepts, Inc.
DHR, Jasper
Diversified Supply Inc.
Docupak
Doozer Software, Inc.
Dothan Community Church - Dothan
Drummond, Inc.
Eagle Point HOA
Ellison Auto Sales
Enercon Services
First Baptist Church of Birmingham
First Church of God in Christ
Fontaine Fifth Wheel
G & K Services
Giles Cooling & Heating
Government Finance Officers Assoc
Harris Insurance, Inc
Harry Jeffcoat & Associates
Hill & Associates - Jasper
HRH Metals
Hubbard Systems
Infinity Insurance
Infinity Insurance-Independent Agents
Intermark Group
Jasper Electric Motors Inc.

  Jasper Water Works
Jemison Basket
Jones-McLeod
Kid One Transport
Krispy Kreme - Mobile
Lake Martin HOA
Lee Rodgers Tire Company
Lowe's (Trussville)
Magnolia Springs Baptist
Marketron
McBee Corporation
McLeod Software
Metropolitan Development Board
Mobile Register
National Coal of Alabama Inc
New Covenant Printing
Paymaster, Inc.
PERC Engineers
Pinnacle Data Systems
Powell Scales
Precision Electric Coil
Preferred Title
Presley, Burton & Collier LLC
Pricewaterhouse Coopers
Process Specialties Inc
Qualico Steel Co Inc
Ray Press
Red Ridge Methodist Church
Reed Energy
Rehab South
Research Solvent & Chemicals Inc
Revere Control Systems Inc
J.H. Rich Company
Rocky Ridge Fire Department
Rocky Ridge Cumberland Presbyterian
Saddle Lake Farms Assoc
SafeHouse
Saginaw Pipe
Santa Fe Express
Save-A-Life East
Shades Mountain Baptist Church
Sherlock, Smith & Adams
Sirius Technical Services
Smith Electric & Associates
Source Medical Solutions
South Shelby Chamber
Southeastern Anodizing Company
Southeastern Bible College
Southern Woodsmith Inc
Spain Rehabilitation Women's Comm
SPOC Automation Inc
Spradling Originals
Springville Elementary School
Spectrum Environmental Services
St Stephen AME Church
Standard Heating & Air
Stillwaters Fire & Rescue
Stone & Sons Electrical Contractors
Stress Crete Inc
Structural Technics Inc
Substations Service Co
Sumrall Seats, Inc
Sunbelt Paper & Packaging
Sungard Business Systems
2AB, Inc.
Talladega Springs Tabernacle
Temple of Hope Baptist Church
The E Group
The Edwards Agency Inc
Trinity Medical Auxiliary
Trussville Area Chamber
Trussville Fire & Rescue
Trussville Motors
Union Volunteer Fire District
United Roofing Mfg Co Inc
Universal Resources
Urgent Care Northwest
Valley of Birmingham
Valleydale Church
Vann Valley Assembly of God
Vestavia Hills Historical Society
Voight-Abernathy Co Inc
Vulcan Threaded Products
Walker County Commission
Walker County Dept of HR
Walter Energy Inc
Wave Transit System
Webb Payroll Service
Women's Exchange
Yale Carolinas Inc

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RJMRJM57 posts since
Jan 21, 2011
Rep Points: 313
7. Friday, March 15, 2013 - 11:20 AM
I got an alert that APCO had reduced their CD rates so I called to ask if they knew anything about the savings rate possibly being reduced. They did not.

 

But, I did find out that they do not have current rates on savings accounts. Every quarter the board meets and declares their rate for the prior quarter. She said its been 1.26% for a year or so.

 

So, really, I could find out shortly after 3/31 that the rate I got for the quarter might be less than they paid in the past.

Hopefully not but this is the only institution that Ive ever heard of that pays quarterly and makes the rate retroactive to the prior quarter.

 

I guess its reasonably to assume the rate might drop but if it does,its also reasonable to assume that the rate remains higher than Ally or ING.

 
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RJMRJM57 posts since
Jan 21, 2011
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8. Friday, March 15, 2013 - 12:52 PM
Wow, I wouldn't be happy about parking my money for 3 months without knowing what the rate is. This would be a deal breaker for me.
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loulou351 posts since
Aug 3, 2010
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9. Friday, March 15, 2013 - 12:57 PM
Yeah, but their history of having a high rate suggests the rate cut, if any, will not be dramatic.

 

Im crossing my fingers that there will be no cut but if there is, hopefully only to 1.10-1.15.

 

But, even if its 1.00, thats better than most alternatives.

 

If the rate ends up being .75% or something, I would file a BBB complaint and complain heavily.

 

But, I dont expect that.
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Jan 21, 2011
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10. Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 4:17 AM
It appears as if I only got 1.00% for the quarter just ended rather than the 1.26% they paid last quarter.

I had hoped this would not be the case but it appears it is. No way to see my statement online because Im set up for statements by mail.

Their front page website still shows the 1.26% as of 12/31/12.

I knew this was possible but had I known for sure they would drop them to 1.00%, I might have just kept the money at ING earning .85% (High tier checking rate)

The good news is the shares I bought it Southern Company are up about 7.5% in the last few months including the dividend I got. I had intended to reinvest the dividend but apparently I didnt do it in time because I got cash.

If only i had put ALL that money in SO shares. (LOL)

 
YTD Dividends Annual Percent Yield Dividend Rate Prior-Year Dividends
$xxx.xx 1.00% 1.000% $0.00
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RJMRJM57 posts since
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11. Wednesday, April 3, 2013 - 4:35 AM
Their website now says 1.01%.
Share Account (minimum $25)
Interest computed on the average daily balance and compounded quarterly.
Rate paid as of 3-31-13.
1.01%
APY
http://www.apcocu.org/rates/savings-rates/

 
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RJMRJM57 posts since
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12. Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 7:28 AM
 

The president commented on the rate cut in the newsletter....

 

 

 

While our dividend rate on share accounts is

 

lower than what we’ve all grown accustomed to

 

in past years, your Credit Union shines by

 

comparison to what other financial institutions

 

pay their depositors today. Although the Federal

 

Reserve has committed itself to keeping interest

 

rates near zero for the next year or two, you can

 

be confident in the fact that your Credit Union

 

works hard every day to see that our Members

 

get the highest and safest rate of return available

 

in today’s marketplace. And, as always, we

 

appreciate your business.

 

V. Merrill Mann, CCUE

 

President/CEO

 
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