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Another Bank Increasing Fees On Existing CDs

Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 5:56 PM
Another poster today started a thread about US Bank increasing (and maybe even first implementing) an annual fee on a 5-year IRA CD. (I am including his post at the bottom of this. The original is at this link.) This is so much like the discussion we have had over the months about changes in early withdrawal penalties and other things on existing CDs that I thought it deserved taking the unusual step of starting another thread on it to put it more in the larger context that we have been discussing over recent months.

As the posting he made says (below), he was never notified of any fee when opening the IRA, but was hit with it at the end of his first year. Regardless of whether he was or wasn't notified of it, the bank is now increasing the annual fee -- and he can't close it to avoid that increase without paying the early withdrawal penalty. He's locked into a CD and they are now increasing fees on it unilaterally.

This is just like the discussion we have had over the months, most recently concerning the changes Fort Knox Federal Credit Union made to the early withdrawal penalty of existing CDs. So, we now have yet another institution unilaterally making negative changes to the terms of CDs after they are opened. 

Except to my mind, this change is even worse than at Fort Knox as with this one, you are ****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't. That is, at least at Fort Knox, you have the option to see your CD through to the end of its term and so theoretically have no impact from the changed early withdrawal penalty; with this change at US Bank, you will be hurt whether you stay or go.

I suspect, but certainly don't know, that this is being done under one of those vague clauses I have mentioned in the discussion over the months that provide for changes after the CD is opened. The disclosures often have a vague reference to the fee schedule applying, and if you go to the fee schedule, you see it says it can change at any time. I still don't find such a fee change acceptable, but they might have legal cover for it. If it is legal, Congress should outlaw it.

The other poster's posting follows, or see it at this link:

Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 11:57 AM

New $30.00 Fee Imposed For Roth IRA Accounts By U.S. Bank

While I was a student I had earned enough to open a small Roth IRA with U.S. Bank.  It was in the form of a 5-year CD opened in 2009 paying 4.00% APY. At no time was it disclosed to me that there was a fee associated with opening or maintaining a Roth IRA account.  At the end of the first year I received a notice that there was a $10.00 fee imposed.  I paid the fee under protest.  Now during this second year U.S. Bank has sent a notice that the annual fee is increased to $30.00.  I wanted to close out my account with U.S. Bank because of this unethical practice but I found out that I cannot close out account because U.S. Bank is imposing a very heavy early withdrawal penalty for closing out a 5-year CD.  How is it that a Bank can change the terms and conditions mid-way, but I cannot close my CD without penalty, if I don't agree to the change?  Essentially, it looks like they can just increase the fee each year to eat up the interest they are paying and I have no recourse.  I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem and how you can go about resolving this.  The CSR has basically said there is nothing I can do other than pay the fee or incur the early withdrawal penalty to close out the C.D.  I had a checking account with U.S. Bank which I closed out based upon a notice that there would be a monthly maintenance fee of $6.95 for the checking account. 
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me1004me1004346 posts since
Jan 16, 2010
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1. Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 7:08 PM
me1004, thanks for creating this thread.

I have a small update concerning the Fort Knox FCU EWP increase. The NCUA Consumer Compliance Analyst has been investigating this issue at Fort Knox FCU. Since it has been almost two months, I recently emailed him for an update. I just received this update on May 27th:
The issue is currently in the final review process.  I will let you know as soon as our decision is finalized.   

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Ken TuminKen Tumin5,442 posts since
Nov 29, 2009
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2. Monday, May 30, 2011 - 3:59 AM
Apparently, inforay is not the only person upset with the change in terms. Below is a link to a complaint board with a number of posters also very upset with US bank over this issue. I guess they waive the fee if you have more than $25,000 in the CD or account.

Ken, thanks for the update. I look forward to hearing from the NCUA. Hopefully, they will do the right thing and make Ft. Knox honor the terms and conditions of the existing CD's.

US Bank Complaints - Fees for IRA Certificates of Deposit
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loulou521 posts since
Aug 3, 2010
Rep Points: 3,239
3. Thursday, June 2, 2011 - 3:58 PM
I posted this on ComplaintsBoard.com where others have had the same complaint.  Someone suggested sending a complaint to, Office of the Currency 1114 Avenue of the Americas, Suite 3900 New York, NY 19936.  I have used the web site-www.helpwithmybank.gov.  They have a form to fill out and submit on-line.  I hope others reading this will also send a complaint and maybe we can hope for the best.  My question is what is to prevent this Bank from charging a $100 fee next year, once they realize they can get away with this?  That way they won't have to pay any interest to the depositors or even worse take money out of our principal. 
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InforayInforay10 posts since
Aug 23, 2010
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4. Thursday, June 9, 2011 - 12:22 PM
http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/09/6821261-new-usbank-ira-fee-can-eat-most-of-savers-interest
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TJJacksonTJJackson13 posts since
Jun 1, 2011
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