1. Tuesday, November 8, 2011 - 6:44 AMNot that easy, Scarlett...:D
One has to build an adaptive profolio suited for one's risk tolerance and time horizon; and it is not simple.
It will begin with a test/experiment in real stock market environment with daily ups/downs. One needs to modify one's porfolio accordingly until smooth sailing. One needs to adjust one's porfolio and fund selection according to weather-of-the-month of weather-of-the-season as well.
Blindly taking total-market funds will only afford you as a sitting duck when the market turns violant and when economy turns to recession. I used to think that diversification and asset allocation are sufficient; but that (promotion/strategy) is only a trick for all poor/dumb investors (including myself) to have a false sense of peace while their money goes down the drain.
JMHO.
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51hh623 posts since
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2. Tuesday, November 8, 2011 - 9:05 AMWhile I would agree that VTSAX and VTIAX are excellent, low-cost, well-diversified equity funds (I own both), a proper asset allocation (AA) should also include fixed-income (such as a total bond fund, a CD ladder, an after-tax cash emergency fund). Relative percentages between and even within asset categories are also important. I would point anyone seriously saving for (or in) retirement to the Boglehead.com site and Wiki.
By the way, an extremely simple balanced fund (domestic stock 60%/domestic total bond 40%) is VBIAX (which I also own). Add a dollop of international exposure with VTIAX, if you wish.
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Bozo60 posts since
Feb 14, 2011
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3. Tuesday, November 8, 2011 - 9:23 AMKen -
Would never get everyone together on this topic. OF COURSE, You are ALL correct. Ken just said a simple way ..... not the BEST or even the most prudent.
Diversified portfoilios are a good idea, but you will probably never get two advisors to exactly match up on what that means, exactly.
Actively managed, or indexed ETF, is another discussion.
Scott Burns writes a column in the Dallas Morning News about the COUCH POTATO investor, with a pretty interesting track history. Only makes adjustments once a year.
Your POST was good food for thought. Probably did need a caveat of SIMPLE is argueably not always the BEST approach. Room for discussion. THANKS for your posts.
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Anon4567 posts since
Oct 30, 2011
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4. Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 4:02 PMSince I am in the business of creating asset allocations, I would include, Equities, Fixed Income, Global Real estate and commodities. I can show models back tested over 20+ years how they perform much better than a stock bond portfolio.
As for the "buy and hope" strategy by the Couch potato, I am from the camp of risk management, not growth oriented. Many of my clients are retired and depend on their remaining assets to live, fund furture liabilities and preserve a legacy for their heirs. I identify with my clients what I call the "Price Point of Pain". How much to "too much" volatility. I use real world numbers and not precentages. I find that is a truer hot button rather than saying a percentage. For example.. 5% volatility doesnt sound bad, but if that 5% is on 1million, 50K loss does.
Everyone should speak to an reputable advisor. Ask other successful people who they use. Once you have a name, go onto FINRA.org/brokercheck and validate their credentials. Once satisfied, go interview them.
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