Update on Alliant Credit Union and its 5.40% CDs
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ON BY Ken Tumin
Update 1/25/08: The top CD yield has fallen to 4.90% APY. Please check the credit union's website for the latest rates.
Alliant Credit Union continues to offer a certificate rate that's far better than what other banks and credit unions are offering for terms of 12 to 24 months. The minimum deposit for this rate is $25,000. A yield of 5% APY is available for minimum deposit of $1,000.
I have more details on Alliant and this CD deal in this January 5th post. I called Alliant on Friday and the CSR said that rates typically don't change until the start of the month. So there's a chance these rates could last through January.
To see all of the ways to qualify for membership, please refer to the credit union's Eligibility page.
Update 1/17/08 #2: I'm afraid MyPoints membership is not a qualification. I think this breaks the record for flip-flopping. This latest information comes to me directly from a marketing manager at Alliant. Below is what I received in an email:
So joining the National PTA remains as the best choice. As I mentioned before, it's not free. There's a $25 membership fee for the National PTA.
Update 1/17/08:It appears MyPoint members are eligible (see above update). A reader followed up on this issue and received email from Alliant. Here are excerpts:
I cannot guarantee that MyPoint membership is indeed a valid qualification. The above is consistent with what's in the online application and with my phone call with an Alliant CSR on Friday.
Update: A reader provided the following comment: "Their membership dept. emailed me back and told me that you qualified only if you were employed by MyPoints. Members of MyPoints are not eligible to join Alliant and the suggestion made to me was that I join the National PTA." Another comment was left about what may happen if you joined without being properly qualified:"They do review on members once a month and if you have purchased a CD without valid alliance the CD may be canceled and money returned to you after 30 days hold." (please see 1/18/08 update of this post).
So it seems like joining the National PTA is the best choice. Unfortunately, it's not free. There's a $25 membership fee for the National PTA.
A commenter in my previous post mentioned being able to apply for membership online on Sunday. A form had to be printed out, signed and returned within 10 business days. He was able to get online access by calling them for a temporary password on Sunday (they have 24/7 customer support). From his Countrywide account, he then established a link between his Countrywide's savings account and his new Alliant account. The money was then transfered into the Alliant savings account by Tuesday. At that time, he was able to open the CD using Alliant's online banking service (Skybranch). So the membership and account opening process seems to be pretty streamlined. It also shows the advantage of having an online bank like Countrywide that provides quick and easy linking of new accounts and fast ACH transfers.
In addition to high CD rates, Alliant also has a history of very competitive savings account rates. Currently, the savings account has a yield of 4.85% APY. The minimum balance to earn this yield is $100.
I haven't followed Alliant closely in the last few years, so I reviewed their history from the internet archive. This savings account has maintained a 4.85% APY for all of last year. It was 4.65% APY on July 15th, 2006 and 3.80% APY on January 2006.
Both the certificates and the savings accounts are available in an IRA with the same rates.
Alliant also has a very competitive rate on its Health Savings Account (HSA). The yield is currently at 5.15% APY on balances of at least $100. There are no fees for account opening, maintenance or transactions.
Alliant Credit Union continues to offer a certificate rate that's far better than what other banks and credit unions are offering for terms of 12 to 24 months. The minimum deposit for this rate is $25,000. A yield of 5% APY is available for minimum deposit of $1,000.
I have more details on Alliant and this CD deal in this January 5th post. I called Alliant on Friday and the CSR said that rates typically don't change until the start of the month. So there's a chance these rates could last through January.
To see all of the ways to qualify for membership, please refer to the credit union's Eligibility page.
Update 1/17/08 #2: I'm afraid MyPoints membership is not a qualification. I think this breaks the record for flip-flopping. This latest information comes to me directly from a marketing manager at Alliant. Below is what I received in an email:
After extensive research, we have found that MyPoints membership is not a qualification for membership eligibility under our by-laws. The good news, however, is that Alliant Credit Union has a relationship with nearly 100 employers, a local community charter in certain Chicagoland Suburbs near O’Hare Airport (that means anyone living or working in one of these qualifying communities is eligible for membership) and several other associations, including the PTA.
So joining the National PTA remains as the best choice. As I mentioned before, it's not free. There's a $25 membership fee for the National PTA.
Update 1/17/08:
If you are a member of My Points, you do qualify! As the My Points relationship is one of our older ones, the Representative was not familiar with the 3 options available under that relationship: My Points Employee, My Points Employee Family Member, and (yes) My Points Member. After the phone call, the Representative did take some time to ask me, and she/I did some further research and found the qualification.
I cannot guarantee that MyPoint membership is indeed a valid qualification. The above is consistent with what's in the online application and with my phone call with an Alliant CSR on Friday.
Update: A reader provided the following comment: "Their membership dept. emailed me back and told me that you qualified only if you were employed by MyPoints. Members of MyPoints are not eligible to join Alliant and the suggestion made to me was that I join the National PTA." Another comment was left about what may happen if you joined without being properly qualified:
So it seems like joining the National PTA is the best choice. Unfortunately, it's not free. There's a $25 membership fee for the National PTA.
A commenter in my previous post mentioned being able to apply for membership online on Sunday. A form had to be printed out, signed and returned within 10 business days. He was able to get online access by calling them for a temporary password on Sunday (they have 24/7 customer support). From his Countrywide account, he then established a link between his Countrywide's savings account and his new Alliant account. The money was then transfered into the Alliant savings account by Tuesday. At that time, he was able to open the CD using Alliant's online banking service (Skybranch). So the membership and account opening process seems to be pretty streamlined. It also shows the advantage of having an online bank like Countrywide that provides quick and easy linking of new accounts and fast ACH transfers.
In addition to high CD rates, Alliant also has a history of very competitive savings account rates. Currently, the savings account has a yield of 4.85% APY. The minimum balance to earn this yield is $100.
I haven't followed Alliant closely in the last few years, so I reviewed their history from the internet archive. This savings account has maintained a 4.85% APY for all of last year. It was 4.65% APY on July 15th, 2006 and 3.80% APY on January 2006.
Both the certificates and the savings accounts are available in an IRA with the same rates.
Alliant also has a very competitive rate on its Health Savings Account (HSA). The yield is currently at 5.15% APY on balances of at least $100. There are no fees for account opening, maintenance or transactions.
the CD may be canceled and money returned to you after 30 days hold.
This info was obtained today from a CSR.
I had called Friday, and the CSR seemed to confirm Mypoint membership, however, I could tell she wasn't too sure. I hope they change their online application so that Mypoints does not show up under "I belong to the following association or organization".
So make sure that you understand this before going any further.
I don't know about you folks, but 5.4% APY for two years looks awfully good going into this recession.
Yours,
Bozo
You more than make up in additional interest what you will pay to join (assuming you have to pay the $25).
Next year at this time, you'll be lucky to find a CD yielding 3%. Trust me, been there, done that. When rates start to fall, it gets brutal.
Yours,
Bozo
If you don't want to remain a member, Alliant's policy is "once a member, always a member"
Local PTA *does* qualify for membership.
Don't forget, familial relationships also qualify for membership. Only one member need qualify using other forms of eligibility such as PTA or Lifetime Fitness. Thereafter, anyone else related by blood or marriage is eligible by referring back to the first member. Think of it as a $25 PTA investment for the family, not the individual.
Also, with their 100 or so existing employer groups, including United Airlines and their retirees, many people may already be related to an Alliant member, and therefore, already eligible.
Oddly enough, Alliant is still showing (this am after cd rate change) their savings account as paying 4.85% apy for $100+.
A couple days later I found out that the attempts didn't fail after all; I now had three accounts, two from the on-line attempts and one from a branch visit that I made.
I called Alliant, had them close the two accounts opened on-line, and spoke with their collections department (they handle credit inquiry issues) so that they won't contest my upcoming dispute with Equifax about the extra hard credit inquiry.
Folks, timing is everything. To those who had problems with the on-line application, well welcome to the internet. Nothing is perfect.
I drove down to San Mateo to lock in the rate and term.
Before you could blink, the rate tanked.
Stuff happens.
Yours,
Bozo
That experience lead me to believe that a person might be able to claim National PTA membership on the application without being a member since PTA membership ID number is not required on the application as I recall.
I actually appreciated all the electronic signature/verification "head fake" questions to enhance security.. I think that process adds a layer of security to the enrollment process that I hadn't seen before in other online transactions.
Banking Guy provides this type information for a lot of accounts but not this one?
When I talk to them on the phone, they were all very nice. Every time I call, it say "this phone call maybe recalled...". However, that doesn't meant it is recorded, especially something important. Also, I found out I got different answers and incorrect answers from representatives. The most important for me is the rate locking and insurance, and what I was told by the representative turned out to be not true or wrong.
My suggestion to people who already has account with them, is to write through email for your questions. This way you have a written record to show what you were told, and hopefully they won't back out from that.