The Premier Checking $2500 bonus is on again, and I planned to go for it upon verifying Well Fargo much criticized integrity by receiving my already earned $525 Savings bonus.

vlad
  |     |   287 posts since 2020

Well Fargo failed the test by making false assertions contrary to the bonus disclosure to rob me of the bonus.

Rickny
  |     |   1,254 posts since 2017
Got an email on this today. Upgrade your account to Premier Checking1 by February 23, 2024 and maintain qualifying linked balances to receive your $2,500 bonus.Offer only available in branches.
Bring $250,000 or more in new deposits to qualifying linked accounts by Day 45 and maintain at least a $250,000 balance through Day 90 after account upgrade or opening. Link your accounts with a banker or online.
John19
  |     |   389 posts since 2022
Super easy bonus, I got the $2500. I'm doing Chase $700 right now.
vlad
  |     |   287 posts since 2020
Obviously they cheat just a fraction of customers, rather than all.

I'm also considering the HSBC Premier checking $1500 bonus, but HSBC integrity is much criticized as well.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
in major aspects HSBC $2000 is very similar to WF $2500, i haven't talked to HSBC Premier Banking or Wealth Management to learn the details.
But from past experience HSBC was horrendously difficult organization to deal with. likely things got worse since HSBC abandoned US Retail Banking. it had very powerful International Master Card, that was canceled as well last year.
None of these bonuses are easy to those who strives for superior returns.
Contrary to stated disappointments, I had so far no problems with WF and recently promoted my Checking Account to Premier.WF Premier Checking Bonus was never off, it was recently extended beyond January 8th to April Fool.
WF has it quirks, every minor things requires the visit to the branch. I got so annoyed that I ditched Premier Banker in favor of regular Banking in closest branch.
I'll be sharing with Vlad the rest of my personal experiences via PM
deplorable_1
  |     |   2,154 posts since 2020
This doesn't seem like a deal to me at all. the ROI is only 4.5% APY for a huge pony up of $250,000....then there is a $35 monthly fee if $250,000 isn't maintained or some relationship balance at least. I get 5.65% APY on liquid cash for doing nothing. The larger the bonus the lower the ROI. I love their 2% cashback credit card though but they need some better banking options so I don't have to keep getting rewards checks by mail.
Terms here: https://accountoffers.wellsfargo.com/premierbonus/
John19
  |     |   389 posts since 2022
You can transfer investments to meet the requirement. You can also buy money market funds through WellsTrade . Wells ACAT process was smooth too.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
I wonder what assumptions involved for jumping from 1% Bonus to "the ROI is only 4.5% APY"?
deplorable_1
  |     |   2,154 posts since 2020
I was going on the assumption that you would be keeping the $250,000 in the premier checking with a maximum return of .5% APY. That's how I came up with the ROI of 4.5% I realize that may not be the case for everyone depending on what your relationship balance may be. So 1% bonus over 90 days equates to 4% per year or APY plus the .5% interest rate and we have a ROI of 4.5%.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
Sorry deplorable!
It's weird set of assumptions, poor reading of promotion and false calculous.

- for calculous.
1% bonus over 90??? days or 900!!! days equates to $2500.00 whether " relationship balance" is $250K or$250M. But if that is the true that 0.5% ANNUAL YIELD of $250K equates to $1275 then the true COMPASIT AND ANNUALIZED "ROI" would be...of $250K, NOT $250M... exactly $3750.
Where APY %%%, NOT Amount of $$$ is your preferred metric you would equate $3750 to exactly 1.5%, BUT ONLY when "relationship balance may be" exactly $250K

-for assumptions.
You'd have to explain to yourself why and how you ANNUALIZE AND COMPASIT 90??? days Bonus AND 12 months Interest.

-for reading.
When you read "Day 90" you mustn't miss Day 0.

Overall it is very descent and flexible Bonus Offer, much more attractive than Chase, HSBC or Citi...for those looking to park at least $250K for the minimum of about 45 days.
Those who make no assumptions of 0.5% Base Interest can safely assume "ROI" of about 6% over about 12 months of holding
The downsides, as with most of Bonuses, it is a one time and short term...and it is the Wells Fargo...I personally had no major problems with.
on small upside, WF is not ChexS shop
John19
  |     |   389 posts since 2022
Here is a list of money market funds you can buy on WellsTrade:
https://www08.wellsfargomedia.com/assets/pdf/personal/investing/wellstrade-money-market-funds.pdf
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
Totally different animal, well out of the original scope of the forum.
Those who consider Bonuses for the INVESTMENTS outside of FDIC Coverage, can get batter deal from Brokers or Fintechs.
I explored this option with FW Advisors(it went hilariously ballistic), in terms of Treasury Bonds as alternative to FDIC Insured Deposits.
It requires another, WellsTrade Account, I could not verify functionality off, except...Fixed Income trades, aka Treasury Actions, only available through Wells Advisor or phone call to Wells Trade Advisors Trading desk, where ordering goes verbally, verification goes verbally and confirmation goes verbally in real time
mariafalter
  |     |   162 posts since 2010
Getting this bonus takes some work, but it’s doable. Money can be kept in money market funds, t bills, etc.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
Let's not stray away.
People who find comfort in SIPC protection are not the kind that bargain for 1% bonus.
They are People with different priorities, investment profiles and forums
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
Common P_D, you can do batter than that, or you could try harder.
The Accounting is Calculous and Calculous is nothing but precise formula where every number is in right place according to the meaning of it.
If I can't explain the meaning of Bonus in the context of APY and If I cant explain the meaning of APY in the context of Comparing Returns, then so be it!
If you mean 8% ANNUALIZED, IT ISN'T 8%, it is only $2500.00 "PREMIUM" on $250K Principal.
To have $2500.00 ANNUALIZED into 8% APY requires 1% Bonus EVERY 45 Days for 365 days time period.
Tell me how and we are in business and retire happily thereafter.
If 8%, APY and "Premium" are the means and statements in context of comparison then you should be able to show and proof that in real numbers of $$$ Return over 365 Days on the Basis of $250K( or any amount of your choice) Principal.
Show to me how to make ANNUALLY $20,000.00 out of $250K "FDIC or NCUA insured deposit" and we are in business and retire happily thereafter.
In a meantime, while "(even if the $250k is earning nothing while in the account)" is in context of "the money in something that pays around 5.5%", I am sure you would CALCULATE the loss of unrealized Interest as $1695.00 that when it's CALCULATED as an Offset(Reduction) to the Bonus will reduce the "PREMIUM" to $805.00

I don't expect you to make the case of 8% out of extra $805.00
If I can't explain the meaning of Bonus in the context of APY and If I can't explain the meaning of APY in the context of Comparing Returns, then so be it!
deplorable_1
  |     |   2,154 posts since 2020
Oh so I see you don't have to have the money in the account the full 90 days only 45 so technically the ROI would be 8.5% assuming once again you leave the $250,000 in the Premier checking account. But then again it says payable after 30 days well I would maintain that $250k in the account during that time to ensure the bonus. IGR I use percentages because if you earn the highest percentage the dollars will make up for themselves no matter what the topic. In order to figure out some kind of ROI I have to make some assumptions. This is just how I evaluate any bonus and yeah I was in a hurry and just saw the 90 days and used that it works out way better if you use 45 days but you need to pad that a bit so like PD says probably works out to around 8% which isn't bad at all. Possibly better depending on what other relationship you may have with them.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
If I can't explain the meaning of Bonus in the context of APY and If I can't explain the meaning of APY in the context of Comparing Returns, then so be it!

Guys... or Girls
I gave to you fare chance to right yourselves.
Every comparison, such as APY, is only valid to compare one instance in the condition that all over criterias are equal, make it ANNUAL Percentage Yield of $250K Principal.
But if you insist on Complaining 45 DAYS gain rather than 365, then you are in the league of your own.
It is a league of one claiming that $5 dollars win on $1 lottery ticket equates to 1825% of ANNUALIZED gain.
I live in real world of simple arithmetic where $5 dollar is a $5 dollar no matter how it is ANNUALIZED.

If I can't explain the meaning of Bonus in the context of APY and If I can't explain the meaning of APY in the context of Comparing Returns, then so be it!
But, I'll enjoy the competition
calwatch
  |     |   65 posts since 2018
If you don’t want stocks Wells is offering a 5.01% APY 7 month CD with a premier relationship. Not the highest but definitely competitive.
John19
  |     |   389 posts since 2022
Chase ACAT from Wells was a slight pain, I had to message the transfer form because the brokered CDs value was off. Very minor hassle, looks like an easy $700 and Wells hasn't charged a partial transfer fee yet. ETrade bonus after Chase then Merrill, Robinhood, WeBull etc. I plan to get them all lol.
IGR
  |     |   573 posts since 2020
That is interesting but different game to play... more like for Reddit and DoC churning crowd.
Personally, I'd be concerned about the economy of it, $700 on $250K makes such a minuscular rate of return gain that every hassle must be considered.
Learning ACAT dependency on CD Value turns the hassle into Pain.
Real Pain will come April 15th and beyond.
I have only 1.5 Brokerage Accounts, yet Every Year I get 1099 Corrected past Tax deadline.
Sometimes, I get lucky, sometimes I have to refile 1040 Amended and sometimes i just leave extra for IRS, because it is a major hassle to deal with 1040X.

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