18 Month Add On With No Penalty For One Withdrawal During The Term

MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021

NFCU is now offering a add on 18 Month Easy Start 4.70 APR with one penalty free withdrawal during the term. If you bank and maintain a Money Market Account, you could transfer some of the money with into this product and then transfer the money back into your money market when you need it which will increase the yield substantially. I suspect that this new certificate will be very popular with NFCU members. NFCU reserves the right to cancel this offer at any time. If to much money is moved from members lower interest money market or savings accounts into this product it may not be around for a long time.

MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021
Ken I agree it is a good deal by NFCU standards so I don't think it will be around for very long as it is likely to cost increase the cost of deposits without a large increase in deposits if that was their goal when offering this special.
Sensible
  |     |   34 posts since 2023
There's a disconnect here between Mindsweeper's post and Ken's link. The one penalty-free withdrawal is correct, but on the linked page there's no add-on provision, and no mention of maintaining a Money Market Account. Did I miss it?
CDmanFL
  |     |   286 posts since 2019
Thanks for enlightening us about this offer. Can I presume the “F” grade for capital is not accurate?
MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021
Sensible - There is no requirement to transfer the money to the new 18 Month Easy Start CD. You can transfer money from any internal and external account at your choice but if you have a savings account or money market account at NFCU you would benefit to opening this account as the interest would be higher. Also, all Easy Start CD's at NFCU allow you to deposit additional money into the CD - they are all add on CD's regardless of the Easy Start term you select.
racecar
  |     |   615 posts since 2014
EDIT: Updated with New Info on the Special.
I'm not as excited as others at a 4.7 rate, but with only a $50 buy-in I will take advantage of it, as it's cheap insurance, so thank you for the heads up.

On the landing page it mentions: "To Renew an Existing Certificate Into an 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate" and gives directlons on how to do that -- but under the fine print for the offer it says the offer can be withdrawn at any time. So not a good idea to do it that way (see below) as Navy will NOT honor it if the offer is withdrawn before the maturity date of the CD you want to change to the special. Since you can add funds at any time I'd recommend opening with the $50 NOW instead of taking your chances with later maturity-date CDs instructions. After all, once your other CD matures you can always move the money then.

Just called and spoke to 2 different CSRs. Both confirmed that setting it as maturity instructions will NOT guarantee the availablity of the special. Once it expires, it expires. So they recommend just opening it up now while it's available. Also: $50 to open. NO MAX. And any amount can be added at any time (no minimum when adding, like there is with IRA CDs). Also, you can open up more than one of these, as long as the offer is still available (meaning if you really wanted to -- I won't bother -- you could open one up weekly until the offer expires to make sure you have the latest possible date before it's withdrawn, then fold all the other ones into the later one penalty free).

Navy Fed is so backwards it's the only FI with a call-back option when agents are busy, that does NOT let you select a different number to be called back at. Typical Navy.

Anyway, I'd play it safe with them, I'd just get it now for $50 instead of trying to do anything like only add it to maturity instructions on another maturing CD, because that's not guaranteed.

To help you plan, 18 months from today would be October 2025.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
Thanks to Minesweeper & Ken. I created one of these today - easy to do online. Note that on the page where you start this process, there's a message stating "Members are limited to one of each special certificate at any given time." I don't know whether their system actually enforces this or not, but I tried to open just the one. (I'd wanted to open 2-3 for more flexibility, but oh well.)

Navy apparently doesn't limit you to one "special certificate" overall, since I have at least one of their previous "specials" and it still let me open this one today.

I'd still like to see better rates from Navy, as they've had in previous rate cycles.
me1004
  |     |   1,379 posts since 2010
This is good, but there is better to be had for such a liquid CD. I has Credit Human's liquid CD, a 12-month CD, and I'm getting 5.7% APY on it. I can make as many additional deposits to it in the term, and also can make two withdrawals during the term. I have added more since opening, and will be adding more tomorrow.

I got it when the APY was 5.7%. But today, the APY is 4.75, edging out NFCU's offer, and two withdrawals, not merely one. All the additional deposits you might like. The withdrawals can never leave the amount in the CD below $5,000, until maturity.

https://www.credithuman.com/investments-planning/certificates-iras/liquid-share-certificate

This is especially great for me, because I have reason to want to leave a substantial amount in a liquid account so I can get at it quickly, yet lock in a decent APY rather than leaving it at the shockingly, unconscionably, thievingly low rates nearly all CUs and banks are giving on savings accounts. I just wish the term could be well longer, the only way for we savers can get a fair and reasonable rate. As for the CU,in the end, they are almsot certin to have allthemoney I put init until maturity, the withdrawals are simply a safety measure for me. And, with the deposits, they are getting well more from me than bargained for up front.
denki
  |     |   157 posts since 2019
My experience: the first CSR I spoke to (who didn't sound very on the ball) said "you can only open it up if you got the email about it. Did you?" So... I said "Uh...... yes" and she opened one up. Then called back later today to help a relative open one up, and there was no question about any email, the 2nd rep simply opened one up, no problem. This isn't uncommon with Navy Federal. So the moral of the story is: if you get a bad rep who asks "did you get an email about it? It's only for people who got an email" just answer yes. Or call back to speak to a better rep.
denbish
  |     |   34 posts since 2017
You can add as many of these 18 month easy start cd's with the one no penalty as you want. I got the agent that said only emailed members so I asked to talk to manager. And then we saw on the promotion online that you can access from the home page moving promos. It is in the FAQs on the promotion full page. Are all 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificates eligible for the one-time, no-penalty withdrawal? A. Yes. Any 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate opened or renewed during the offer period is eligible for one no-penalty early withdrawal. IRA and ESA 18-Month EasyStart Certificates aren’t eligible.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
P_D - On this it seems you and I mostly agree. When the current rate hike cycle began I started quite a few add-on CDs, as rate insurance, and as rates rose I added to or replaced them. This category served me well in the prior rate hike cycle, but in this one, not so much as it turned out. 

Doing this didn't cost me much except a little time and a small bit of opportunity cost (in particular, Rising Bank is an entity I would avoid going forward, due to their non-negligible minimums for add-on CDs). And yes, the long-lasting inverted yield curve is probably the main cause.
mimuna
  |     |   24 posts since 2017
There are two EasyStart Certificates with 18 month terms listed here, one with 4.7% APY and one with 4.45% APY:
https://www.navyfederal.org/checking-savings/savings/savings-resources/certificate-rates.html

When I went to open a new certificate online, it listed only one 18 month EasyStart Certificate, so it was unclear which that was.
Over6T
  |     |   31 posts since 2012
CAUTION: I just opened a $50 18 Mo 4.7% EasyStart Certificate as a option place holder in case rates deteriorate.
Terms:
- min $50 to open
- One time EWP waiver
- Add on with no upper limit
BUT BUT, when finalizing the online input screen for this CD, the disclosure shows a "COMBINED DISCLOSURE" that applies to all EasyStart CD's and DOES NOT identify the EWP waiver nor says that any amount can be added for the 18mo/4.7% promotional CD. Even more troubling it does say that a direct deposit is required. So, the disclosure that requires Acceptance for this CD on the screen doesn't match the advertised terms of this 18Mo/4.7% CD.
I called the CSR - no help - so I talked to a supervisor. She agreed the online disclosure does NOT represent the actual 18 month 4.7% terms. She asked if I would trust her description given over the phone A: NO! Then she asked if it was OK to rely on their recording of our conversation A: NO!
So, she agreed to send me a letter that ostensibly describes the advertised terms of the 18mo / 4.7% EasyStart CD
Buyer Beware.- it's a bit of a dubious deal, but for a $50 option, I'll take the chance.
Also worth noting - in the Combined Disclosure there is a statement that "Other terms may apply". When I asked what those terms are, they didn't know!
MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021
Over - I good way to test with the requirement for a direct deposit is to open another $50.00 18 Month Special online without the help a rep and see if the system lets you open the account. If it does than you can always close the second CD after the 7 day waiting period is over. I have been a member for many years and have not found that they try to pull fast one like some credit unions that create a new account and then don't give the increase to their existing account number. I would ask Navy Federal for a written response acknowledging the error if you intend to put a large amount of money in the account. In the end you are right it gets down to what is in writing by most banks Navy Fedederal including always give themselves a way out by giving them the right to end or make changes. I use Alliant Credit Union and USAA for banking and
MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021
PD - if you didn't have a direct deposit the system may not let you open the account. Anyway, the best way to check is to wait until after the 7 day waiting period and try to add additional funds. If you are able to I believe you are all set. If you are going to make a large deposit into this account I would ask for written confirmation. I don't see Navy Federal terminating the account if you do not have a Direct Deposit. Years ago when I when I retired from active duty I had an Active Duty Checking account that requires a direct deposit. I received a letter from NFCU and was given 90 days to establish a Direct Deposit or the account would be changed to an everyday checking account. I established a small Direct Deposit and was able to keep my Active Duty Checking Account. At the present time I bank at three Credit Unions and have no issues with Navy Federal. Again I think it is a good idea for written confirmation of their policy even though like other financial institutions they reserve the right to make any changes so in the end you have some exposure anyway.
Over6T
  |     |   31 posts since 2012
MineSweeper: From your post - " I agree with you that they are above average when it comes to honoring their deals. I'm not suggesting that it's a bad idea to get something in writing if there's a conflict with disclosures versus expectations. But in this case you have the promotions page to back you up and I think there's minimal chance of a problem."
I agree, NFCU has historically been an excellent CU, though not always a rate leader. Hard knocks has taught me to have contracts in writing since, when conflicts arise, "Words in the Wind" (or an elusive/expired web page) are meaningless. From a practical view, I don't consider the issues I raised to be all that risky, just a cautionary note.
nikita606
  |     |   4 posts since 2022
This is from the email about this offer. I'm keeping the email and don't expect to have any issues. If I do, then I will call. There is a big difference in how good the representatives are. Call back if you get a bad one.

1This offer, including the stated Annual Percentage Yield (APY), is effective April 8, 2024. Navy Federal reserves the right to end or modify this offer at any time. The rate is applicable to the 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate only. Minimum purchase amount of $50. No maximum purchase amount. Offer not available for IRA or ESA certificates. Additional deposits are allowed. Penalties may apply for early withdrawals from certificate accounts. Other restrictions may apply.

2 This 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate “one no-penalty withdrawal” offer is effective April 8, 2024. Navy Federal reserves the right to end or modify this offer at any time. The offer is applicable to any 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate opened or renewed starting April 8. Waived penalty will only apply to the first withdrawal from an eligible 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate. Withdrawals are permitted starting 7 days after new certificate account opening date. The 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate has a minimum purchase amount of $50. Other restrictions may apply. APY may change before an 18-Month EasyStart Share Certificate is opened and funded. Offer not available for IRA or ESA certificates.

This Annual Percentage Yield (APY) is accurate as of 4/8/2024. This APY is an annualized rate that reflects estimated earnings based on the dividend rate and frequency of compounding. Dividends compounded daily, credited monthly. Penalties may apply for early withdrawals from certificate accounts. Offering rates may change. Other restrictions may apply.
johnnyrotten
  |     |   15 posts since 2012
Just opened the 18-month Easy Start 4.7% Certificate, the one listed under "Certificate Special Offer Rates", not the one listed under "EasyStart Certificate Rates". I received, and am keeping, the email about the special, as its disclosure mentions the "one no-penalty withdrawal" feature, whereas the disclosure on the website does not. When I "chatted" with a rep online, I was told that because the penalty waiver is temporary, NFCU wasn't going to change the disclosure to reflect it. So I had the rep confirm (in the written "chat") that my certificate would have the no-penalty feature until it matured, and had the rep send me a transcript of the "chat". Hope that, and the email, are proof enough should there be an issue down the line. I hate not having details like that in the certificate information itself.
MineSweeper
  |     |   68 posts since 2021
Deporable

NFCU gives you 21 days after the CD matures so you can always change the instructions with no penalty. I suspect the unusually long period to make changes after maturity is due to a lot of members might be assigned to a ship and had to provide written instructions. This is a nice feature so if NFCU opens a new CD at a higher rate you can move the funds as long as it is within 21 days. I have used this feature one or two times in the past and I am not aware of any other Credit Union giving three weeks following maturity to make changes. There are many things that I would like NFCU to change but the 3 week period is not one of them

The financial institution, product, and APY (Annual Percentage Yield) data displayed on this website is gathered from various sources and may not reflect all of the offers available in your region. Although we strive to provide the most accurate data possible, we cannot guarantee its accuracy. The content displayed is for general information purposes only; always verify account details and availability with the financial institution before opening an account. Contact [email protected] to report inaccurate info or to request offers be included in this website. We are not affiliated with the financial institutions included in this website.