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Difficulty In Selling Brokered CDs?

Ken Tumin
Ken Tumin   |     |   6,005 posts since 2009

One reader emailed me about his experience in trying to sell Fidelity brokered CDs. Here’s an excerpt of his email:

I have brokered CDs with Fidelity.  I never had any luck in selling one if I wanted to cash it early, even when interest rates were in my favor.  I was told that the CDs I had were too small.

The reader said his CDs were in the range of $4,000 and $40,000.

I tried to get more details from a Fidelity CSR about selling small CDs, but he wasn’t able to provide any. The CSR just said that there may be times when you might not be able to sell a brokered CD on Fidelity’s secondary market.

For those who have sold brokered CDs at Fidelity or at other brokerages, did you have any problems? And what were the sizes of your CDs?

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cumulus
cumulus   |     |   1,067 posts since 2010
Not a direct answer to your question Ken, but today's Scott Burns column
contains some useful info on this topic (question 2, not question 1).

Note: he concludes by saying "Getting a reasonable price on broker-sold
CDs if you want to sell them before maturity date is a regular source of
complaint from readers."

Hope this is helpful for a few DA members.
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lou
lou   |     |   755 posts since 2010
Ken, I don't buy brokered CD's precisely for this reason. I do buy corporate bonds but only issues that trade everyday. I have never seen a brokered CD trade more than a couple times a month. I would only buy a brokered CD if I was sure I would not mind holding the CD until maturity.
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paoli2
paoli2   |     |   2,514 posts since 2011
We have owned brokered CDS in a Fidelity IRA for more years than some of you have been born.  However, Fidelity always made it clear that one may not always be able to get a buyer for that CD on the Secondary Market if you want to sell before maturity.  We have never had to sell a brokered CD and would not want to risk the loss if we had to.  The CDs have worked out well for us in the IRA but would urge readers to understand the risks of buying brokered CDs before purchasing them.  Fidelity has a long spiel they "must" read to customers to protect themselves if the customer does not understand the difference between bank CDs and their type of CDs.  The word is "proceed with caution".
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Ally6770
Ally6770   |     |   2,640 posts since 2010
I have never purchased a brokered CD for three reasons
1. The money might be in a bank that you already are at or near your limit. 
2. If the institution who have your money  goes under the FDIC has no
   authority over the broker to make sure you get your money from them. 
3. As I got older I did not want to leave a mess for the beneficiaries. 

In the 80's many of  the brokered CD's were at Savings and Loans

If you buy a CD directly from a bank and it fails, you will receive an insurance payment faster than you would if you purchased it through a broker. With brokered CDs, the FDIC must first obtain from the broker the name and deposit amount for each CD investor. Then the FDIC will send the deposit insurance check to the broker, who in turn is responsible for distributing the payment to the consumer, and that can result in further delays. Note that the FDIC does not supervise or become involved in the arrangements between brokers and consumers.

https://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/news/cnspr13/cdsfrombrokers.html
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paoli2
paoli2   |     |   2,514 posts since 2011
Re: Ally6770:  I read nothing on your link that would concern me about continuing to buy brokered CDs as long as it was from a well known broker like Fidelity or Vanguard.  As for your #1 about the bank and limit, that is definitely up to the purchaser to be in control of.  Our brokers know I keep a ledger of which bank CDs I buy so I don't go over the limit with buying from more than one broker.  That is the customer's responsibility to keep track of, not the brokers.  You would have to do the same even with unbrokered CDs so that is not a problem.  If you want to make sure you get your money, you just make sure you are with a responsible broker from day one.  We have had a bank go under for a CD we had purchased from one of our brokers and the entire amount was transferred back into our broker's cash reserves account for us faster than I could ever have expected.  I was able to use it to buy a CD from another bank.  The money was in the account before we even got the notice the bank had failed!  As long as the funds are FDIC insured, I assure you, the FDIC would be involved as long as your broker was legit.  Whether they are or not, is your responsibility.  If you  don't want to leave a "mess" for beneficiaries, "you" must make sure to do your research (as I am sure you do just as well as I do) and they would have no problems with brokered accounts.  I use two brokers from day one because I wanted to "test" them out for how they handle their accounts and what kind of reps they hired.  I have been so pleased with both that to this day we still stay with both.  The FDIC does not have to supervise anything if you are with an established, professional broker. 
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