Do You Ever Play The Float?

RJM
  |     |   499 posts since 2011

Monday, I wrote a check for my remaining ally funds to Northern and dropped it in the mail. The ally funds are in their no penalty CDs. They offer no way to automatically close & transfer those on a future date.

Because Northern is a good deal away from me, chances are they won't get the check until thursday or friday and it may not clear until Monday or tuesday.

However, because I am paranoid about bouncing a check and incurring fees, I will probably manually transfer the funds early tomorrow.

Not to my checking account, but to my savings. I have overdraft set up where Ally automatically transfers from the savings to checking to cover any checks you write.

On the $62k I had left at Ally, the interest difference between 2.20% and 2.35% is about 25.5 cents a day.

However, a bounced check fee would dwarf that so I am unwilling to take much of a chance. So in all likelihood, I am leaving 1.02-$3.06 on the table.

What would you do?

(I opt to mail checks except on small amounts because I think I lose a days interest when I do an ACH from Ally and potentially gain a few more waiting for the check to clear)

You could lose 3 days interest if you have not primed the outside account to ally previously which I almost always do. (a $200 pull from the outside account to Ally usually primes the outside account)



Answers
AnnO
  |     |   129 posts since 2018
Not worth the risk for $1-$3. Personally I always put the money where it needs to be before starting a transfer / writing a check / etc. Even if you think you can wait and hit the right buttons in time, sometimes 'stuff happens' - what if you get hit with a health problem that puts you in the hospital away from a computer on the intended day, or a snowstorm knocks out power/internet in your area?
Duck
  |     |   111 posts since 2010
Either way don't go to Starbucks for a day an you'll be ahead
RJM
  |     |   499 posts since 2011
Apples to Oranges but I have never bought a coffee in my life. I feel like I NEED 2-3 cups a day but even 200mg in pill & soft drink form seems to cause me urinary issues.

Its time to find a new Dr and I will be going soon. (Been using the Dr in a box places for the last 3-4 years)
RJM_Willy12
  |     |   149 posts since 2016
A part time "gig" might be more rewarding.

A wonderful story, in any case.
Ally6770
  |     |   4,294 posts since 2010
Not to alarm you but banks do prosecute for playing the float. One person I knew even got fired for it.
RJM
  |     |   499 posts since 2011
Northern deposited my check Thursday so I went ahead & closed the no penalty cds & stuck it in my savings thursday (with free overdraft)

Better safe than sorry.
me1004
  |     |   1,379 posts since 2010
Now that we have one-day ACH, many institutions are using it to clear check. So, you cannot rely on overnight for that. Your check could bounce the same day it is deposited.

Also, I don't know Ally's policies, but are you certain they will use the savings to cover a check of that size? Banks often will have a limit on the a month of doing such a thing.

This is one reason CUs can be better. Most are in the shared branch system, and with that you can go to another local CU and deposit to your CU same as if at your CU's tell window, it is a free transaction. That deposit is in your account instantly.

Also, I note, taking the float is illegal, even if you avoid a bounced fee. Still, as a one-time thing, it is unlikely it would even be noticed even if it were bounced.
RJM
  |     |   499 posts since 2011
I'm pretty sure there is no limit. Beyond the normal 6 per month or there is a fee.

Did not notice a CU offering the 1% bonus deal that Ally did a few months ago.

Jan 30, 2019 Overdraft Transfer $48,000.00 $0.01
Jan 30, 2019 Check Paid #XXXX -$48,000.00 -$47,999.99
Jan 22, 2019 Overdraft Transfer $82,000.00 $0.01
Jan 22, 2019 Check Paid #XXXX -$82,000.00 -$81,999.99
AnnO
  |     |   129 posts since 2018
Unfortunately most CUs are NOT in the shared branch system. Many, but not all, of the ones that we see offer nationally-available high-rate deals are in it. But in my ~250k-population area, out of over a dozen - maybe two dozen - different CUs, only one (with half a dozen branches) participates. (This means that if that one ever drops out too, I'll be left with no participating CU nearby to do my shared branch business at.)
RJM
  |     |   499 posts since 2011
The only ones I know of that are not are LMCU & Penfed. Andrews & Nasa are as well as 3 local CUs I have accounts at. But I use a 4th which is closest to my house for deposits. (I don't have an account at the shared branch I use most)

And I am renewing a CD and adding $10k new money at Nasa on tuesday. 15 month, 3.20% which is just want I was hoping for because I feared getting rejected by Premier for too many new accounts. Instead, Premier ended their deal today before I applied.

There is another credit union that I drive by most days on my way to the gym, they are a small local outfit with only a few branches but MY branch, for some reason, is not set up for it while all their other branches are.


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