enduser | | 711 posts since 2015This question has been posted multiple times before. Several banks can be used as a hub but each has limitations in one area or another so you will need to determine what is important to you and what you can live without. I use Ally 20, Discover 30, CapOne 4, Marcus 4. Amex 4. The number next to each is the limit of externally linked accounts.
The typical default transfer time is 3 business days. When you are with Ally for a while they will activate 1-day transfers. Amex has 1 day if you keep your transfer amounts to $100k or less. Marcus also has 1 day but they are a hit or miss at times.
Now you need to also take into consideration, Hold Times in business days some vary between 0-10 days. Your money is locked for those days until they release the hold on the PULL but it still earns interest, daily transfer limits, and monthly transfer limits.
Ally starting in 2022 started to limit external links to a lifetime of 20. They will add more as you delete them but they must approve each one on a case by case basis and they take their sweet time adding them. If you are after a time sensitive special you will miss out on that deal.
midas89 | | 996 posts since 2017Here is an update on using PurePoint Financial as a hub.
Positives: 10 External Accounts Allowed to Be Linked High ACH limits: $250,000 per day. $1,000,000 per month. Fast ACH transfer times. They do not force you to use Plaid to establish your ACH relationship. As soon as you complete your ACH pull into PurePoint from within PurePoint, that amount is reflected in your balance immediately (it's not available until the money actually arrives, of course).
Negatives: 4-Day Hold Time if you initiate the Pull into PurePoint from PurePoint. (If you push into PurePoint from your external bank, there is no hold time.) Any time you add an external account you must go through a one-time security screening with a live PurePoint representative the very first time you actually initiate an ACH withdrawal. (This is a frustrating thing since they already require you confirm your external account with a text message code, which must be done every time you do an ACH. Plus, they already made you confirm you own the external account with Trial Deposits. This should be enough, as it is for many other banks.) They are paying a measly 0.40% interest for balances above $10,000, as of this writing.
milty | | 1,674 posts since 2018Check out Customers Bank: same day ($100K limit) and next day ($250K limit) ACH transfers, unlimited external accounts, easily add and remove external accounts.
enduser | | 711 posts since 2015@milty I have tried to join customer bank twice and I have been denied both times, without any reason given. However tmobile has their deposits at customer bank and I was able to jont tmobile without any issues. Go figure.
Ltssharon | | 471 posts since 2020Well, I am entirely different. Because there is a Schwab branch right here, I keep emergency money in it. If I want I can use it to buy broker stuff. I can walk there, get a check, and take it to another place and deposit it. I can write checks on it. It is Fdic insured. I am so lucky to have a broker branch close. If I get a check from somewhere else, I can walk there and deposit it and instantly buy stocks, etc. In addition I have a bank 1 block from my house that is hooked up to treasury direct. Old school me.
They do them in a matter of hours Not sure the exact cutoff time as I think about noon or 1pm is the latest I've tried it with most earlier
They pay crap but because I have buying power in my account I can transfer from one bank to fidelity and then out of fidelity the same day without incurring any margin interest
And I have ally & All American as backups but AA does NOT allow large transfers from their website without calling and getting permission- something I should not have to do
midas89 | | 996 posts since 2017I still use PurePoint Financial only as a hub account for ACH transfers. They only pay .40% APY for balances above $10K. Their ACH limit is $250K per day, $1,000,000 per month. When you ACH out of PurePoint, it shows up at the external bank the next business day. When you ACH pull into PurePoint, the money is reflected in your balance immediately after clicking to create the ACH transaction (it's just not available to ACH out until the next business day, if desired).
The first time you ACH out to a newly-added external account, it is a requirement that you must speak to a security representative to prove it was you who are really authorizing the transfer to the brand-new external account. They automatically call you on the day you initiate the first transaction, but you don't have to wait for the call. You can call in any time after you initiate the transfer and take care of the security check in advance of their call. Any future ACH'ing to this specific external bank will go through without any further security calls.
TBT | | 168 posts since 2018Yep. Customer's Bank and PurePoint have been my go-to banks for solid & dependable transfers for years, but I no longer leave large cash sitting in their accounts due to their current low rates. Maybe over time they will offer competitive rates again. (??) But let me tell you what happened to me with PurePoint a couple of months back so you can be forewarned; do NOT make a typographical error when setting up an external bank account to do the micro deposit process like I did! Now, with EVERY online bank process I am partanoid and I will triple check everything before I click & enter it!! PurePoint will lock your funds and NOT allow you into the banking website. You will get an automated message instructing you to call them in person to speak with the "Fraud" department. That's when all the fun starts; I successfully answered their personal security questions for them over the phone, but then they still had me continue the process online too to in order to unlock the account. I went back into the computer as instructed with their temporary password e-mails, but still wasn't granted access to their website. I had to call a total of 5 times speaking to 2 different people before I was finally cleared and allowed access to their website & my cash. It was a very long arduous & aggravating experience all because of a glitch that I entered a wrong digit in their standard external bank process! As long as you don't err and do something like that, you will be fine with Purepoint.
midas89 | | 996 posts since 2017If you do an ACH pull initiated via PurePoint, there is a 4-business-day hold on the funds before PurePoint will let you transfer the money out. Interest accrues, but their rate is still poor at 0.40% as of this writing.
If you ACH push money into PurePoint from your external bank, there is no hold.
midas89 | | 996 posts since 2017It looks like Citizens Access online savings account is one of the best hubs when it comes specifically to the dollar limits. From their site:
"There are no limits when transferring money via our call center team. However, for your security, we place limits on transfers you initiate online to and from your Citizens Access accounts. For incoming transfers [initiated via Citizens Access], you can transfer up to $1,000,000 per day. For outgoing transfers [initiated via Citizens Access], you can transfer up to $250,000 per day. If you would like to make a transfer that exceeds the [when doing it yourself online] limits, please call us."
The current savings account rate is 0.75%. The most disappointing aspect of all this is the hold time for incoming transfers that are initiated via Citizens Access is 5 business days. (If you send money into Citizens Access via ACH from your external bank, there is no hold time.)
midas89 | | 996 posts since 2017There is a potential negative regarding using Citizens Access as a hub. The only way to link an external account for ACH transfers from within Citizens Access is by first involving Plaid. Even if you choose to use the Trial Deposits verification method, Plaid is the middleman that does the trial deposits for verification for Citizens Access.
Now, Plaid claims they do not sell your data. They also claim they utilize great security which could alleviate security concerns if Plaid were to ever be hacked, or if any employees sell your data. But we all know that Equifax also claimed to have good security prior to being hacked.
So, the good part of Citizens Access as a hub includes the allowing of 10 external accounts to be linked, and the bank's fabulous transfer limit situation. The negatives include the 5-day hold for money transferred in when utilizing Citizens Access to do the pull, and the fact you cannot get your 10 or fewer external accounts into Citizens Access without the involvement of the middleman company Plaid.
JeffinEasternFL | | 744 posts since 2020While MBoI does not have an ACH service you can ach in/out in unlimited amounts and the money market checking account stays in the top tier of rates in all environments. My ACHs to/from them are posted often within hours. Checks are free too! Best part: unlimited wire xfers are FREE and FAST! Thus, no limits on dollars to/from.... They could be a great choice as your money is getting top interest APY while sitting there and is credited FAST! Plus, you can be FDIC insured on a single account to $1M and get that same great interest rate!
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