Will You Outlive Your RMDs?

Bozo
  |     |   1,375 posts since 2011

For those of us turning 70 this year (as my wife and I are), the question is whether we might outlive our RMDs. The easy answer is "no". By definition, RMDs are based on life expectancies. The table runs from age 70 to age 115+. The table is here: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/...d_wksht.pd.




Inflation_Hawk
  |     |   107 posts since 2016
The big question is whether you will outlive your assets. 2016 was the first year that both of us were retired. Other than a rather expensive dental crown, there weren't any budgetary surprises for us last year. So, it was a pretty good baseline year for retirement. Due to our house value increasing, our net worth actually went up (even adjusted for what little inflation there was).

However, our cash went down 26K. If we can keep that up, we'll run out of cash when we're in our early hundreds. This would be a joke if it wasn't for the fact that some of our relatives have actually made it into their 90's and early 100's. Of course, the wife's solution to this is to spend more money. And, she's probably got a good point. You can't take it with you.

Eventually some sort of medical disaster will occur to one or both of us. Our solution to that is to make like an Eskimo and hop on the next ice flow that passes by. It's like the Jack Benny "Your money or your life" comedy routine. My reply is like Jack's, "I'm thinking about it." I don't see the point in bankrupting the surviving spouse with medical bills. And, that happens all the time.

With the new laws in California, when things get terminal you can check-out ahead of time. You're not forced into relying on hospice care whose palliative measures might not be able to control pain for certain diseases. I was exposed to a lot of death early in my life. After seeing what they went through I decided a long time ago to bail-out ASAP when things start going south.

The big exception to this is Alzeimer's disease - or, any other age related dementia. By the time these diseases become terminal you can't legally commit suicide since you're deamed incompetent. So, the trick is to check-out before it's too late to do so. That's a rather dicey proposition. In both of our families that hasn't been an issue (so far, anyway).

I'm thinking of writing a financial planning book called "Suicide: The Only Guaranteed Method To Prevent Outliving Your Money".
Bozo
  |     |   1,375 posts since 2011
Jimbeau, chin up. There are many roads to Dublin, none of which leads to running out of money before you die. One option is to cash in and retire in a friendly, low-cost-of-living country. One of my wife's friends, surely not terribly "bucks-up", retired to Costa Rica, in a palatial beach-front estate, and paid for his total living expenses with Social Security. Another option is to annuitize a portion of your nest-egg. While I'm not a fan of annuities in general, SPIAs can work for some. The option my wife and I have chosen is what some derisively call the "bucket approach". Over a number of years, I have taken profits in equities and bond funds, and shifted the proceeds to a CD ladder. At this point, roughly half our investable assets are in said ladders, the balance in 60/40 balanced funds at Vanguard and in my wife's 401K. The bucket of CDs should last until we are roughly age 85, or thereabouts. Should we be able to buck the odds and live longer, the balanced funds kick in. Those should suffice another 15 - 20 years or so. Plan "C" is selling our after-tax and real estate to fund any requirements beyond that.


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