IRA Direct Transfers

Anon456
  |     |   249 posts since 2011

Watch out for the process and the timing.

We all know that doing a direct trustee-to-trustee can be a pain, and takes a lot of time.

BUT, beware also that it is UP TO YOU to manage the process.

Example: I faxed over transfer forms on 12/17. End of month .... nothing had happened. Credit Union was to FAX info to Fidelity, so the delay should have been about a week or so.

Turns out the paperwork sat at the credit union for two weeks, and originally reported to me that they had not received anything. After I pointed out exactly when it was faxed to them, they found it sitting in their fax queue. Then, two weeks later, still nothing from either Fidelity or the credit union.

Turns out that there was a problem in the paperwork (my fault), and Fidelity let the credit union know back on 1/5 via US MAIL. Credit Union got the mail notice on 1/17 - but had not yet worked the mail.

POINT TO ALL OF THIS is that you should not just "send it and forget it" when it comes to transfers. If the existing IRA custodian will take a fax, then you should see some activity of it going out within a week or so. Should be at the new custodian via us mail after another week, so hopefully less than two weeks for a normal transfer. Three weeks if they only work on originals from the US MAIL. But it is still up to you to make sure the new custodian forwards the paperwork on a timely basis, and the existing custodian is timely about working it and send out the money. Of course, it could also get delayed or lost in the mail.

NOT that big of deal with small dollar amounts, but if the IRA is sizeable, even at today's low rates, it starts to add up to some lost $$$.

DO NOT depend on the financial firms to manage the process. They only react to inbox items, and do not seem to have any system to follow on the next step in the process. So check at least every week to make sure that things looks normal. My two week transfer will end up taking 6 weeks. 2 because the credit union failed to get things out (until I contacted them), then another 2 because of an error that was communicated via US MAIL (and only found after I called AGAIN), and another expected 2 weeks to re-do and mail the transferred funds.

I usually only do IRA/ROTH transfers for a minimum of 2 year maturities because of the dead time between the money being inside of paying CDs. Do not want long term CDs because we are in a rising rate environment. SO IT'S UP TO YOU AND ME to manage the process.




TheBombingRange
  |     |   104 posts since 2017
Could this be referring to Navy Fed's 36 mo IRA? I'm working with someone on this transfer and it has seemed to take a long time as well.
Jacques321
  |     |   32 posts since 2018
Good synopsis, and the timeline mirrors my experience with IRA direct transfers. Moving $50 - all by mail - to establish NAVFED's 36 month CD took nearly a month. Glad the CD terms didn't change!
Anon456
  |     |   249 posts since 2011
YEP - did not mention NAVY because it is not focused on them. This whole issue is present with most all CU and banks.
Bozo
  |     |   1,375 posts since 2011
Amen. As you note, every step in a custodian-to-custodian transfer must be monitored. If the current custodian allows a FAX transfer request, make sure the receiving institution (the one sending the FAX transfer request) gets a confirmation of receipt of the FAX. Then, a week or so later, call the existing custodian to make sure they received the request. Then, upon maturity, call and make sure the transfer has been processed. A week to ten days later, make sure the receiving institution has received the check.
Kaight
  |     |   1,192 posts since 2011
Good post, Bozo. People need to be made aware of this stuff and you cannot remind them too often.

I have never done a custodian to custodian transfer in all the years I've had my IRA, and I never will. Already have enough hassles in my life. There is no need to create more. And 60 days is a really, really long time!!
Anon456
  |     |   249 posts since 2011
ONE MORE THING (been watching too many old Columbo shows).... not recently, but I have had some end of year IRS 1099 reflecting what was a direct transfer as a withdrawal. That was back when you could do multiple 60 day rollovers with no problem. Not true anymore. BE CAREFUL. I always keep my original documentation, if needed, to prove that I DID NOT make a withdrawal, but rather a direct transfer. These should NOT have any IRS paperwork from either the old or the new custodian, so if something shows up, get a correcting (all zeros) 1099 immediately.


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