Brokered CD's

Vernazza
  |     |   34 posts since 2022

FYI -

The 5%, non-callable, 5-year CD's go very fast on Fidelity. I found you need to check several times a day to catch them. When you do find one and refresh your screen you see the number drops very very quickly and usually gone in hours.




RichardW
  |     |   821 posts since 2019
Vernazza…I noticed that American Express sold over $3,575,000 of their 5%, 5yr, new issue, non-callable brokered CDs at Fidelity in less than 35 minutes this afternoon. As of 4 PM EST today they are currently sold out. I’m glad to see American Express joined the 5%, 5yr, new issue, non-callable brokered CD group at Fidelity today. Previously I had only noticed Capital One and Discover in that group. Great to see a third financial institution in the mix. I wonder if we will soon see a financial institution in that CD group which isn’t a credit card company :)
sams1985
  |     |   781 posts since 2022
As of now at 1125pm, all 3 institutions have availability on Fidelity for 5 year non-callable 5% CD's. Discover, Amex & Cap One. Cap One has over 12,000 available.
w00d00w
  |     |   360 posts since 2012
the current demand for credit card borrowing seems like it's helping pull those brokered CDs to the top of the longer term pile
sams1985
  |     |   781 posts since 2022
I've been observing this as well. I'm wondering if this super strong demand will disincentivize banks from raising rates much beyond 5% even if the fed keeps raising the interest rate? Any thoughts?
RichardW
  |     |   821 posts since 2019
Why are we even considering these CDs which only yield 5% annually, when we can make 5.54% in one day with an S&P 500 index ETF? Just some entertaining 11/10/2022 stock market analysis…no need to answer :)
Kirkland
  |     |   377 posts since 2014
because we are retired and want to sleep well, and even with today's huge increase, we have lost 17.52% year to date in that S&P 500 index
GH1
  |     |   1,058 posts since 2017
And next week will lose 20 percent. Not gambling here as Kirkland said i like to sleep at night
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
Well, as I bet RichardW suspects at some level, one doesn't really put a statement like that out there without expecting at least SOME responses, right? :)

So... YTD my S&P500 index fund (SPY) looks somewhat like Kirkland's does - ugly. But to turn that frown upside down, I just move the starting point back 6 months to 6/30/21 - ROI is now -9%. Back another 6 months to 12/31/20 - now up 5.57%. Back to 12/31/19 - up 22.42% (includes the COVID recession, BTW). Etc., etc. - it just keeps getting better until you get back to early 2009, and even then it doesn't drop much. So how you sleep at night is, you diversify your over-time volatile moneymakers, against your more sedate non-volatiles (in my case mostly CDs instead of bonds, since 2018-early 2019). Sure you adjust the percentage of each at times depending on macroeconomic stuff, and age, but you never completely exit all stocks until you're really, really old.
RichardW
  |     |   821 posts since 2019
111…I like your diversified portfolio philosophy! I have been utilizing a similar approach with VFIAX.
MY2CENTSWORTH
  |     |   440 posts since 2016
111...what is "really, really old? While I appreciate your perspective I believe each individual financial situation differs and may have a little bit to do with net worth and their expenses as they pertain to their lifestyle.
sams1985
  |     |   781 posts since 2022
Not sure if this is true but the reason we're not seeing too many new issues CDs is because tomorrow is a bank holiday according to my Fidelity rep.


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