Mute Button Option?

kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012

We have often noticed on the DA blog that the response to outspoken contributors can vary greatly. A particular contributor--especially those with strong right or left views--may on one hand receive 50 "likes" for a particular post, while other readers will react to the same post negatively--reckoning it irrelevant, overly political, or repetitive. In many instances this disdain has devolved into personal attacks and name calling. One solution to all this would be to add a "mute" button, that would allow any DA reader to mute a fellow reader whose comments he/she did not care to see. The "mute" strategy works well on social media sites. Adding a mute option would ensure that those with strong views would have the freedom to keep posting as they see fit; and those who no longer care to see such posts would no longer be burdened with seeing them--or having to scroll through them. This would allow each reader to exercise personal boundaries without trying to control other contributors. What are YOUR thoughts about adding a "mute" option on this website?




bobert456
  |     |   187 posts since 2022
not sure how involved it would be for KEN, but I like your suggestion.
Confused1
  |     |   87 posts since 2018
I like that idea. I'd also suggest either getting rid of the thumbs up button or at least adding a thumbs down button as well so everything is equal.
senda
  |     |   126 posts since 2015
I really hate to say I agree, but perhaps maybe it's best?

Because the people who comes to mind -- those who simply don't have the self-control to stop spouting their polical views, DO occasionally write relavant on-topic posts that I don't mind reading when they're about the topic that people come to this site for. And I don't like silencing anyone.

But when such people think that appropriateness doesn't apply to them, and don't have the internal self control to stop themselves from spamming everyone with political views while we're trying to talk about bank account specials, then there comes a point when one simply starts ignoring them.

I completely skip over posts by certian people automatically now -- a shame, because again, those same people have shown that they CAN contribute with good posts when they want to, if only they had even an ounce of self control.

But the occasional relavant post isn't worth all the political spam, so if a "Mute Button" isn't something Ken wants to put on, I suggest anyone taking this board seriously just skip right over those who haven't shown the basic ability to recognize appropriateness, like the guest who just doesn't know when it's time to leave.
DLandFan
  |     |   4 posts since 2021
Seems to me that muting an inflammatory poster is fine, but will still necessitate scrolling thru the volume of inflammatory reaction posts in order to tease out the worthwhile posts. Doesn’t solve the problem.
paulaj
  |     |   23 posts since 2013
There are no First Amendment rights to say whatever one wants to say on this forum. Who wants to buy an opera ticket and a rock band , or vice versa, shows up? Its manners and common decency to not intrude on other peoples time and interest, especially when you absolutely know you are violating the rules and being indecent and rude.

There are plenty of political sites to go to for any one wanting to discuss politics or screwed up economics. So why here?

I guess the scroll on crowd would be happy to expect to see their favorite sporting event repeatedly disrupted by a nudist or flag burner running on to the field every minute or so. Oh, just close your eyes!!!! Think how much time has been lost over the years having to "scroll" by comments that deliberately violate the rules.

Ken, not having a zero tolerance policy for blatant, repeat offenders is just plainly unfair to the readers who want to spend their time on this site digesting and commenting on banking news. We don't need a mute button. We need a banishment button.
txFish1
  |     |   479 posts since 2023
paulaj Nice post and I agree 100%. I do believe everyone is entitlied to their opinion and it does not bother me if someones opinion is different than mine but it is a big waste of time scrolling through the Blogs that are meant for Interest rate decisions, Fed policy meetings etc. and over half of the posts are political posts.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
Welcome to the Brave New World of "triggers" and microaggressions, folk. What's next? A button that auto-edits all posts to match a user's own pronoun preferences?
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
Implementation of a "mute" button as described above would inevitably bring greater confusion to DA. Why? Many posts that contain what the easily-offended brand "inflammatory" text, also contain some text that strictly concerns interest rates, financial institutions and how to deal with them, etc. Not all, but many - I would even say most.

Let's say that some users mute a certain poster (call him X) and others don't. X then posts in a particular thread, so of course some users can see that post and others can't. As that thread progresses, users who can see X's post (let's call two of them Y and Z) may post responses. Some of Y and Z's responses will be to the "inflammatory" part of X's post (if that particular post of X's contains such), some to the non-"inflammatory" part, and some to both. Unless all users who muted X have also muted Y and Z, many of those users will now see Y and/or Z responses - responses to a post that they themselves cannot see! This will cause confusion and make the thread less intelligible, and this problem will only increase as the thread progresses.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
"The "mute" strategy works well on social media sites." First of all that itself is somewhat debatable. But more important, DA is not really a generalized social media site - it is specific for providing data, information and users' insights on financial institutions and how to deal with them, on interest rates and trends, etc. There are unquestionably some areas within DA's purview that are impacted by political realities. Many posts contain both "politics-neutral" text, and other text, and many users who sometimes post comments with some politics also post others which are completely devoid of it.

The analogy between DA and the generalized social media site, which usually does not have a purpose other than allowing people to simply communicate, is a poor one.  I'd much rather see Ken's staff work towards more important enhancements to the website.
kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012
111: I agree that DA isn't comparable with a social media site because of their very different purposes. I only meant to say that the FB tool itself (which allows for temporary as well as permanent muting) may be a useful tool for DA. Would time and energy be better spent on website enhancements? Maybe so.
RZ
  |     |   394 posts since 2017
It is a fact, perhaps an unfortunate one that politics and economics are inextricably linked. Anyone who thinks critically about the WEF influence on Western policymakers decisions on economic and health matters understands this reality. Technology has created the opportunity to mine vast sources of information which venues such as this one serve as an open forum for dissemination. Those who choose only to believe what they hear and see from mainstream media may be blinding themselves from information that may have direct bearing on their financial well-being. Let’s keep the discussion open, intelligent and free of ad hominem attacks.
kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012
RZ and Deplorable_1: I want to respond to you both together as your points are in my view valuable and interrelated. There is a wise author who wrote that it is important to "be skeptical, yet still be open to hearing others." That is one of the best arguments against my suggestion for a mute button--as it could--as Deplorable notes--impair open and honest dialogue. Add to that RZ's point about the naivety of thinking we can separate politics and economics--which are in real life so closely connected. To each of these points, if our contributors were engaging in nothing but a free exchange of ideas, I never would have made the mute button suggestion. However, what is happening is that there is a subgroup of contributors whose posts are predominantly personal/ad hominem attacks--upon fellow readers and upon public figures. While all of us should take the time to hear, consider, and respect opposing views (we might actually learn something), no one should have to read or endure ad hominen attacks on a blog. This website is not currently able to moderate such inappropriate comments/contributors as actively as it would like (I can't share particulars, but if you look at Lending Tree Stock price you can infer why that might be), so these kinds of toxic posts/posters are likely to continue for the foreseeable future. "You either want free speech or you don't": Deplorable: I DO want free speech; but to make an analogy: Free speech is like the ability to eat from any of the 100 dishes at a gourmet buffet; however, I don't think I should be expected or required to sample every dish--some I may choose to mute, so to speak.
RZ
  |     |   394 posts since 2017
There really are just a few posters that offer insults rather any serious debate or rebuttal. It also appears that when flagged Ken does remove those posts. It has been said that one should never feed a troll so rather than mute it may better to just ignore.


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