Rogue Banks Freezing Accounts Denying Access To Funds For Weeks And Months

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  |     |   31 posts since 2023

I'm not sure if this topic has been covered yet, but I'll put it out there as this seems to be an emerging conversation.

More and more internet banks and fintech firms are advertising high savings rates with easy ACH transfers to open and fund an account, however when trying to withdraw those funds, the accounts are frequently locked and access to your funds are denied. Then it can take weeks if not months to retrieve your money, often with devestating consequences, such as not being able to pay your bills while racking up enormous late fees, going into default status on loans, and even possible eveiction for those who rely on this money to pay their rents or mortgage.

Some of these firms feature debit cards and direct deposit. Reports of direct deposits going missing or being frozen is a pattern that seems to be reported. Fraudulent debit card purchase against these accounts are also being reported with customer's claims being denied and no explanation given. The amounts are often thousands of dollars.

Customer typically report that they spend many hours on the phone over weeks and months, a lot of it just being on hold, and receiving a pattern of conflicting and inconsistant information from CSR's on what needs to be done to regain access to their funds, such as waiting for forms that the bank is to mail and to be filled out and mailed back, often with personally identifiable information. The forms typically don't arrive, or if they do, they seem to just disappear after mailing them back. There are also reports of customers being told that their funds have become unfrozen, but frequently they are still frozen when the customer tries to regain access.

One thing many of these institutions have in their deposit agreements is that the customer agrees that that the bank or fintech can basically freeze their account at their sole discretion and can take as long as they determine to unfreeze the account. Some even go on to say that the customer will be responsible for the cost of maintaining the account if frozen and any investigation that is made thereof (and some customers report that they have been charged these costs.)

For the fraudulent debit transactions, reports are that the companies are not following Electronic Transfer Act policies that protect consumers and limit their liability in the event of a fraudulent debit transaction and simply deny the customer any recourse.

Ultimately, it seems that the best recourse a customer has to get their money back is to file complaints with regulatory agencies, state agencies, and the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau. Even so, customers often report that the institutions lie in their responses to these agencies, however at least there is a trail at this point that can be followed through with, and often these complaints help customers regain their access at some point. However, again, this is after hours, weeks, and months of not having access to begin with, or not being protected against a fraudulent debit.

Not to mention any particular institution, but this trend seems to be increasing more recently. Typically, it was rare for a bank to freeze someone's account, and when they did, there was a specific and stated reason with a clear requirement as to how to resolve the situation in a timely manner. So the increase of this type of situation and the troubles that it can cause is concerning.

So I'm putting this topic out there and see what everyone thinks.




Rickny
  |     |   1,298 posts since 2017
The only bank I have ever had lock an account is Chase. The only good thing is that you can call and usually get it unlocked quickly.
depositor27
  |     |   3 posts since 2023
E*TRADE did this to me. Read my review on this site for the gory details. They also lied in response to FINRA and SEC complaints. Can't wait until the taxpayer funds Morgan Stanley's next baillout! Woohoo!
SessionCancel
  |     |   31 posts since 2023
@depositor27 I read your review for E*TRADE, thank you for sharing. Did you eventually get all of your money back, and about how long did it take?Also, can you explain what you mean when you say that E*TRADE demanded that you file Regulation E ACH disputes with every bank you had made deposits with? I'm not sure what they were actually asking you to dispute, and did they mean every bank you personally made deposits with or just the ones associated with E*TRADE? Aslo, you mentioned that they lied in theri response to your complaints with FIRNA and the SEC. Can you please tell us more about that? 
Finally, how did you actually get your funds in the end (if they in fact gave them to you.) Did you have to file any compaints with various agencies, or did you just work it out with E*TRADE.
Also, was this their bank product or an investment product?
Your information can help others, again, thanks so much for sharing about your experience with them.
depositor27
  |     |   3 posts since 2023
I did retrieve all of my funds after about 2 weeks. However, I called them maybe twice a day (no exaggeration) during this period and was routinely misdirected by them. I gave them exactly what documents they demanded and they then waited for me to contact the next time to demand something additional. They could never just demand everything they wanted at once. It reeked of delay tactics to me and they really must enjoy earning 5% float on frozen balances. I know it would have taken months for me to resolve this if I did not make it my number one priority in my life during those 2 weeks.

I linked my external bank accounts to the E*TRADE interface using my external bank routing and account numbers. Funds were deposited using that linkage. The accounts were all verified using trial deposits or log in credentials.

E*TRADE forced me to contact every bank I ever used to deposit funds (just into the E*TRADE account) and report the ACH withdrawals as unauthorized (even though they were authorized). E*TRADE told me I could only retrieve my funds through these ACH disputes.

I mentioned how I was only given the option of Reg E disputes to retrieve funds in my regulatory complaints and E*TRADE lied and said that this option was only "suggested". I was never suggested this option, I was initially told this was the only option or E*TRADE would hold onto my funds indefinitely. The employee I spoke with initially said they would not mail me a check, wire funds, reverse the transfers, ACH out, or any other funds transfer method I would consider sensible.

Other options were of course available: I was eventually wired the funds. This true recount of events was denied by E*TRADE in their response to my regulatory complaints. They also had no basis for confirming or denying my account as there's basically 0% chance that their compliance department actually listened to hours and hours of my recorded phone conversations.

This was an individual brokerage account where I just held a cash credit balance at the time. I posted my review since I thought the experience might be relevant to any potential checking/savings customer and because they must have the same KYC/AML protocols.

I filed complaints with FINRA, SEC, and my state's attorney general after I retrieved my funds.

I went through this whole rigamarole just for an account sign up bonus. But wait, there's more: after my bonus was already credited to my account and I met all of the offer requirements, they confiscated the bonus. I just have to assume these scoundrels will issue me a 1099 for that.

Did this answer all of your questions?
SessionCancel
  |     |   31 posts since 2023
@depositor27 thank you for all of that information.I'm glad you got your money back, and although it took a lot of time and work, thank goodness it didn't linger for months.
I wonder if them demanding that you file Reg E disputes with all the banks reporting all your ACH deposits to ETRADE as unauthorized or else they would keep your money indefinitely is something that if documented would constitute something illegal on their end, or perhaps putting you in a legal peril yourself if these disputes were actually untruthful.
I wonder too if you can follow up on the signup bonus issue, now that everything has been cleared up. Perhaps a little more work filing complaints with proper documentation showing you met the requirements may remedy the situation compelling them to reinstate your bonus.
Unfortunately, there are too many stories such as yours that are starting to come to light.


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