Shift From Weekly Blog Summaries To Banking Basics: What Is Your Opinion?

kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012

I know that all of us are grateful to Ken for his 18 years of in depth savings summaries as part of his weekly blog. I have noticed that the new management and editorial staff have made a shift from in depth savings rate analysis to banking basics (for example, this week's article on how to find the account and routing numbers on your check). As a freelance writer myself for a major online magazine, I know that management and editors greatly value knowing "how the articles are performing." Please offer your honest feedback on whether the shift from in depth analysis to banking basics provides added value to Deposit Account's blog and whether they meet the needs of the readership. Also, whether your opinion is favorable or unfavorable, please give the reasons for your opinion so  that the feedback is constructive. 




Rickny
  |     |   1,297 posts since 2017
The blog has been lacking for a long time. You find more rate deals in the forums. Ken had been ahead of the cirve on rate offers in the past. At least I now now where my account number in on my checks. :)
choice1
  |     |   371 posts since 2023
Almost 7 years since purchase of DA for $33m with $24m of that in cash and contingent payments as was mentioned earlier. Time for its business model to change direction. Anyone read any recent SEC filings?
SonicPurity
  |     |   3 posts since 2013
“Anyone read any recent SEC filings?”

This thread motivated me to do so tonight. Let’s try a link for the newest Lending Tree 10-K:
https://investors.lendingtree.com/static-files/5f08ffe5-2cdd-4d10-a3d4-413a4e599011

A few of the disclaimers stood out (i’m using * * for italics in the original):

“*We improve our products and services in ways that forego short-term gains.*
We are constantly striving to improve the user experience for our consumers who use our websites and applications and for our Network Partners. Some of our changes may have the effect of reducing our short-term revenue or profitability if we believe that the benefits will ultimately improve our financial performance over the long-term. Any short-term reductions in revenue or profitability could be more severe than we anticipate or these decisions may not produce the long-term benefits that we expect, in which case our business and results of operations could be adversely affected.”

Attention Those In Charge: Keeping Ken in his traditional role and viewability on the site is the long-term benefit you’re in the process of losing.

“*If we fail to manage our people through the changes caused by the economic challenges, our business and results of operations could be harmed.*
We have experienced a reduction in our headcount as a result of both elevated turnover caused by the market as well as planned severances, which places substantial demand on remaining management and our operational infrastructure. As we manage through this change, we must effectively transition work and train, develop and motivate a large number of both existing and new employees, all while maintaining the beneficial aspects of our company culture. If we do not manage the changing employee base effectively, the quality of our services and efficiency of our operations could suffer, which could harm our business and results of operations.”

“*We rely on the performance of highly skilled personnel and if we are unable to attract, retain, develop and motivate well-qualified employees, our business and results of operations could be harmed.*
We believe our success has depended, continues to depend and in the future will depend on the efforts and talents of our management team and our highly skilled employees and workers, including our software engineers, analysts, marketing professionals and sales staff. Our future success depends on our continuing ability to attract, develop, motivate and retain highly qualified and skilled employees. The loss of any of our senior management or key employees could materially and adversely affect our ability to build on the efforts that they have undertaken and to execute our business plan, and we may not be able to find adequate replacements. Despite our current efforts, we cannot ensure that we will be able to retain the services of any members of our senior management or other key employees. If we do not succeed in attracting well-qualified employees or developing, retaining and motivating existing employees, our business and results of operations could be harmed.”

It should be obvious that Ken Tumin is *the* key employee for the Deposit Accounts “product”.

“*We have incurred significant operating losses in the past and we may not be able to generate sufficient revenue to be profitable over the long term.*
We have incurred operating losses from continuing operations at times in our history and we have an accumulated deficit of $837.7 million at December 31, 2023. If we fail to maintain or grow our revenue and manage our expenses, we may incur significant losses in the future and not be able to maintain or increase our profitability.”

I read this as Lending Tree may be scrambling for revenue. Hopefully they’ll see the long-term value of keeping the informative blog summaries and the person(s) responsible for their longstanding quality.

“On March 24, 2023, we committed to the Reduction Plan to reduce operating costs. The Reduction Plan included the elimination of approximately 162 employees, or 13%, of the Company’s current workforce. As a result of the Reduction Plan, the Company incurred approximately $5.3 million in severance charges in connection with the workforce reduction, consisting of cash expenditures for employee separation costs of approximately $4.3 million and non-cash charges for the accelerated vesting of certain equity awards of approximately $1.0 million. The Reduction Plan, including cash payments, is expected to be substantially completed by the end of the second quarter of 2024.”

Guess we’ll know pretty soon what may remain of this site.
racecar
  |     |   628 posts since 2014
Constructive question being asked, but I doubt anyone in charge of content will even bother to look here. On the off chance that I am wrong though, I agree with others:

Know your readers, or risk losing them.

One couldn't have written a better parody than the most recent DA blog post on "where to find your account number on your check" for a blog whose readers know more about banking and FIs than 99% of the country.

Suggestion:
It's not necessarily "bad" to have an occasional "banking for dummies," beginner-type post -- but know the majority of your readers -- and label it as being that, or risk alienating your core reader base. You could do an occasional post like the most recent one, under say, a "Banking Basics:" tab for the occasional wanderer or newbie to the website, but at least acknowledge that a post like that is a "beginner/basic" post, and not for the vast majority of readers here, otherwise it shows a huge lack of understanding and/or wilful ignorance of your core readers and what this website actually is, turning the site into an unintentional parody.

Take a moment to look at what this website actually is when deciding what content should go here.
betaguy
  |     |   181 posts since 2022
Every business eventually devolves to, "never underestimate the stupidity of the masses."
And so it goes.
chasinrates
  |     |   16 posts since 2015
Perhaps the goal is to reach a different demographic? Change is hard (I've become a bit of a grumpy "keep off my lawn" old gal myself but try my best to temper those tendencies and go with the flow) and maybe they want to reach a different audience now? To be blunt, readers who are starting out where I was 40+ years ago are going to be around for a lot longer than I am. I personally miss the in depth analysis but am grateful for all I have learned and profited from over years I've been a reader. I will visit this site much less frequently but do wish well to all involved.
aleshnick
  |     |   4 posts since 2022
Bring back Tumin!!
capybara
  |     |   10 posts since 2023
The most recent blog post on how to find your account # was literally the same as:

(1) a blog for Pulitzer Prize-winning authors, informing them that there are 26 letters in the alphabet.
(2) a blog for Juilliard students telling them that they must first open up their cases before they can take their instruments out.
(3) a blog for Google coders informing them that their computer must first be "on" before any coding can be done.

Perhaps this topic might be wise to consider:
"How to turn a once-relavant website into "My Space" in 3 easy steps."

Please, take five minutes to see what this website IS before putting up blog posts like the most recent one.
milty
  |     |   1,689 posts since 2018
Although the biweekly blogs about CD and liquid rates were informative and the comments entertaining, for me it is imperative that the various rate charts involving local and nationwide availability are up-to-date. That said, I totally agree that that blog about the check account number was quite the non sequitur.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
Strangely I find myself partly agreeing with milty, which reminds me I need to call tomorrow to schedule my annual physical - gotta make sure the ol' blood's still flowing to the brain!

But seriously, the FI rate charts and data, including the info concerning availability to various locales and customer affinity groups, are central. Many times I've contacted CSRs at FIs regarding their deposit accounts, only to find that the info I saw on DA.com was more accurate or timely or both, versus what they had. One would think it shouldn't be that way but it is, and it seems to be getting worse. I'll miss the weekly blogs but I realize that part of the operation is likely one of the more human-labor-intensive aspects. At least until AI takes that over - h*ll, could be next year!
me1004
  |     |   1,381 posts since 2010
The rate charts are good, but they are not everything out there. For one thing, they can't pick up any special a CU might post about on its Website but not have in it's rate charts. For whatever other reasons, the charts don't always even pickup everything out of the rates charts the banks and CUs post. They get most, but not all.

Like I posted above, I just got a CD deal that was not in the rate charts (it should have been in mine), I got it only because I had seen it a couple months ago in Ken's blog.
CDmanFL
  |     |   286 posts since 2019
I’m quite sad to see what has become of my favorite website. It went from being highly useful and informative to quite the opposite. Can’t even get an accurate rating for Navy. It’s only the largest CU in the world. I really miss Ken!
choice1
  |     |   371 posts since 2023
And if someone (ken?) doesn’t buy DA “back” whose turkey will this be? One can run but one can’t hide behind a statement saying it was/is management. You all get what you pay for and prior owners got…? Then there are the advertisers, employees, vendors, etc. Please tell us who negotiated that buy/sell agreement?
kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012
Choice: Is not mirepoix, baked bread cubes, and sage the preferred stuffing for turkey, rather than empty paper? 
Ally6770
  |     |   4,308 posts since 2010
My opinion is maybe all comments should be reviewed and not allowed if it doesn't belong in this blog. After reading many articles on lies and those who tell them and those that believe them--I thought a small part of the articles would be useful for us to realize characteristics of some of those of the unwanted remarks.
As far back as 2005 it has been proven- - - - 
A USC study has found the first proof of structural brain abnormalities in people who habitually lie, cheat and manipulate others.

There have been so many other articles studies from NIH and Colorado state since then with further proof of this and about the people who believe these lies and are manipulated by this since then.

The same is true of conspiracy theories – research shows that people who believe them develop more rigid neural pathways, meaning they find it difficult to rethink situations. “When we come across a big lie or a conspiracy theory, it can shape our ideas without us even being aware of it,” says Danesi. But people can train themselves to rethink and discover the lies and inconsistencies by rethinking the lies or even discovering why they are lies but they make a conscious decision not to choose it. It is easier not to.
These people are easily controlled. I don't think their opinions are wanted or needed in this blog and belong in the psychiatry publications maybe examples sent to the people doing more studies on this from the NIH, Colorado State and USC and others. If we understand could keep them from being printed or sent to the to right studies where they may be helped might be a solution. The extreme measure would be NO COMMENTS AT ALL ALLOWED.
capybara
  |     |   10 posts since 2023
How the mighty have fallen...
I think me1004 is absolutely right, it's all about SEO not content at this point.
Zemo999
  |     |   103 posts since 2017
As with many of the longtime DA readers, the most important function to me of the site was the clear use of the site to find the best rates for a given product - along with the detailed information that was provided - such as EWP, special provisions of the deal, etc. It was clear that the rate tables were as up to date as could be, and Ken's daily blog (and summary reports) made sure that one could pretty much count on having the best information possible on making a decision about where to invest.
Perhaps I'm just slow, but I really don't have the certainty about how to find the best deals that I used to. In the rate tables? Unclear to me how up to date they are. I *think*, in the absence of Ken's daily Blog reports of new deals, we're supposed to go to the 'Forum' and rely on....other readers to be informed of new deals? Not really clear about that either.
I find the changes leave me feeling uncertain about the solidity of information, if not downright puzzled at times. As others have commented, if you want the maximum number of clicks, then shifting towards publishing investment basics might make sense. But personally, I think that you'll eventually lose people like me who consulted the site on a daily basis, and whose aim is true to what seemed to be the founding principles: Provide the best information on the best rates for a huge diversity of accounts. And, of course, Ken's commentary on macro conditions is always invaluable, as well.
kcfield
  |     |   188 posts since 2012
Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful comments and opinions on this thread--and to Ken for his response. Ken is a person of his word. I trust that he will invite the new management and editorial staff to at least view and consider the concerns raised here. Whether that will ultimately result in change remains to be seen.
me1004
  |     |   1,381 posts since 2010
Ken's comment above indicates the new management already is considering the input here. Yes, what they choose to do about it remains to be seen.
SonicPurity
  |     |   3 posts since 2013
Comment from an extremely infrequent poster and maybe once-a-year site visitor.

MAJOR THANK YOU to Ken for years of timely, useful, well-organized information on the best deposit account deals and trends. This site as it was made a significant difference in my financial well-being.

Thank You to the regulars here. I learned many things from your usually insightful comments. Hopefully at least this will continue, but as others have already written, crowdsourcing the current rates and deals and more won’t replace what Ken (and team?) has been doing all these years.

To the site owner(s)/manager(s): Ken’s timely rate deals and thorough analysis is the main reason i come to this site and refer others to it. Lose or eliminate that, and you destroy most of the value of the Deposit Accounts brand and site. AI/LLM content won’t replace that. Noob articles won’t replace that.

There is a place for banking basics on Deposit Accounts, but as others have written, it should be a clearly-defined separate section from the current deals and full analysis. Ken‘s posts need their own section, or clear highlighting in the post list, to easily be found via visual scanning. It’s great if he’s going to participate in the Forum area, but his ongoing posts should remain on the main blog, not be relegated there.
IGR
  |     |   584 posts since 2020
Nothing is permanent, it is an essence of the evolution.

DA is done, it isn't profitable,
Ken is gone, he cashed out and under non-compete.
10K is useful if one intended to get VC backing and make an offer to TREE to buy out DA, or
acquire the stake in Public company and use shares to voice opinion equitably.

Alternatively;
come up with seeding funds
right the code.
hire the people like Ken.
register the website.
take on the loss.
deposit happily thereafter

otherwise, from now on, it is all emotional and unconstructive waste of effort
me1004
  |     |   1,381 posts since 2010
Ken is not gone, he's still here like always, he simply has been redirected under this change. He even says, they are considering all this, deciding.
IGR
  |     |   584 posts since 2020
What are we becoming spiritual?
"Latest Deals & News" is about one month old!
In Business world it isn't deciding, it is dissolving!
Do you need more time to process and realize?
Sanger
  |     |   321 posts since 2022
I have a question do they still update best CDs rates. And how often do they?
me1004
  |     |   1,381 posts since 2010
What I know is that that has always been automated. I can only presume the automation is still working. However, note, it picks up only the rates in the normal spot for them on a FI's Website. If promos or other are posted anywhere else, it misses them.

It's a good rate chart, but not 100%, it misses some of the best deals. But these missed deals might be found in the old Ken blog, which now is missing. More might be found in this forum, just never posted as a story in Ken's blog.

It's the combination of all the parts -- including Ken's weekly CD and savings account summations. that gets you best informed, not just one of them.
bobert456
  |     |   187 posts since 2022
This web site is several levels deeper than most general financial web sites (like Bankrate), and is a perfect tool for yield chasers like me. The shift to basics is several levels too basic for me. NOT ALL of the indepth articles are exactly what I am looking for, but the majority of it is, or at least causes me to review some of my long held understandings. Those detailed topics, under the hood, and the concentration of CURRENT rate specials and timely reviews of financial changes/topics is what brings me back here most every day.

I am just now reading input from P_D, Kcfield, and ME1004 and fully agree with their input. I am hoping that things remain current in time, in-depth, and that DA continues to peel back layers of the financial onion. There are tons of other sites that have the basics and general financial FLUFF.

I am also very thankful for KEN, and of the many excellent members of this site who have provided leadership on evolving topics. Things to look into, things to avoid, and things that broaden my financial concepts and financial planning. Please keep up the good work. LOTS of bright minds on this web site.
Robb
  |     |   324 posts since 2018
Ken one suggestion which would be helpful in addition to what others have already expressed here. Would be nice in your abbreviated CD summary if you could include a small section of the top 3-4 Add-On CD’s available nationally/locally. I’ve found those to be quite valuable over the years.

Thanks again for staying open to feedback and for your hard work over the years.
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
FYI - A bit off-topic in this particular thread, but considering the changes to DA.com lately, what does that even mean anymore? 
 
"Fidelity Cash Management Account Adds High-Yield Sweep Option" - Those of you with Fidelity accounts may want to investigate - https://www.doctorofcredit.com/fidelity-cash-management-account-adds-high-yield-sweep-option/
111
  |     |   672 posts since 2019
I should have added a bit more context in my post from 4/26/24 -

"Starting June 15, 2024, Fidelity Cash Management account will offer an elective option to have your default sweep account be the high-yield SPAXX money market fund (4.95% yield at time of this writing). Until now, their default deposit sweep is an FDIC account with an interest rate which is not highly competitive (2.72% at time of this writing)."

So, not too bad for an account that is mainly used to hold funds between investments, including T-bills as well as more volatile alternatives.
Carpline
  |     |   882 posts since 2015
I suggest everyone let Lending Tree know what they think about the Banking Basics focus. There is a "contact us" button on the https://www.depositaccounts.com/about/ page.

"For media inquiries, reporting an issue, or giving general feedback.
This link redirects to our partner site, Lendingtree.com."
IGR
  |     |   584 posts since 2020
Lendingtree Inc. is a public company. Once you become a Shareholder by acquiring NASDAQ: TREE shares you'll gain the right to voice your opining equitably and directly. Once you become majority Shareholder you'll be "they" to "think" about Business Basics.
Otherwise, everyone is better off investing time and effort into figuring how to be successful without DepositAccounts.com
choice1
  |     |   371 posts since 2023
Amazing the level of some that think DA service is dependent on whether a reader pays! When the advertisers don’t see their numbers being made or their contract hits renewal point (tomorrow?) this site will be toast regardless of any payment by a poster. The former owner made the result of the deal he made and you see! Almost like most of you not having an exit strategy when your CDs mature! Get over it!  It’s gone…the party’s over!  
Reminds me of a purported former dentist posting here that s/he had sold a multi branch dental business in Philly area and when asked about so-called customer safeguards after closing, eg fees, levels of service Qs, etc. the silence of response was deafening…conclusion:  ”it’s about ‘me’ not you!”
Rickny
  |     |   1,297 posts since 2017
So the last blog entry was 4/15 When Ken was on the ball we would get the scoop on great offers. The value add that Ken gave is no longer.


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