Sharonview FCU's Adds 64-Month Certificate Special
UPDATE: 3/10/2018 - As stated on Sharonview FCU's website, "Limited Time Offer Has Expired (As of 5:00 p.m. ET, March 9, 2018)"
4.00% APY. Do I have your attention?
South Carolina-based Sharonview Federal Credit Union (SFCU) is offering a 64-month Certificate Special earning the first 4.00% APY we’ve seen for a CD in quite a while. The minimum opening deposit is $500 of new money.
The 64-month Certificate is also available as an IRA (Traditional, Roth, and CESA), earning the same 4.00% APY and with the same funding requirements.
According to the fine print on the Savings Rates page,
For the 64-month certificate, Per Member deposit limit
of $250,000 new funds and $100,000 existing funds.
As stated on Savings Rates page, the Early Withdrawal Penalty reads as follows:
Penalty for early withdrawal is 365 days dividends on the amount withdrawn.
I want to thank DA reader, jrich444, for posting this great deal in the Forum. And many thanks to all who commented.
Availability
Headquartered in Fort Mill, South Carolina, Sharonview Federal Credit Union offers membership through a variety of ways.
Easy Membership: According to SFCU’s Eligibility page, “Anyone, anywhere in the Carolinas, GA, TN or VA has the opportunity to join Sharonview through the Carolina Consumer Council.” Using promo code, SFCU, when joining waives the membership dues.
Two other EMR organizations are the Hobby Farmers Association of America ($20 annual fee) and the Charlotte Folk Society (dues ranging from $20-$40). Descriptions of these organizations are listed on the Eligibility page, including links.
The comments from DA readers on jrich444’s Forum post provide a lot of good information concerning the EMR.
Residency: Individuals who live, work, attend school, volunteer regularly, or worship in the North Carolina counties of Bladen, Cleveland, Gaston, and Robeson; the North Carolina cities of Charlotte, Salisbury, and Wilmington; and the South Carolina counties of Florence, Greenville, and Spartanburg are eligible to join. There are some Zip Code restrictions, which are listed on SFCU’s online application.
Employment: Employees and retirees of more than 800 North Carolina, South Carolina, and New Jersey SEGs are eligible for membership.
Membership: Members of nearly 30 organizations, including several churches and HOAs, are eligible to join.
Relationship: Immediate family and household members of current SFCU members are welcome to apply.
Complete details concerning membership eligibility can be found on the first screen of SFCU’s online application.
Joining Sharonview FCU and/or opening a Certificate Special can be done online, or at any of the 11 North Carolina branches located in Charlotte (5), Fayetteville, Gastonia, Salisbury, Shelby, Tar Heel, and Wilmington, or at any of the six South Carolina branches located in Florence, Fort Mill, Greenville, Greer, Simpsonville, and Spartanburg. Since I last wrote about SFCU, a single branch location has been opened in Bridgewater, New Jersey.
The membership application is also available as a download, which can be completed and then mailed or dropped off at any branch location.
Credit Union Overview
Sharonview Federal Credit Union has an overall health grade of "A" at DepositAccounts.com, with a Texas Ratio of 5.56% (excellent), based on September 30, 2017 data. In the past year, SFCU has increased its total non-brokered deposits by $59.36 million, an excellent annual growth rate of 7.03%. Please refer to our financial overview of Sharonview Federal Credit Union (NCUA Charter # 22548) for more details.
Sharonview Federal Credit Union was founded in 1955 with $11k in assets, after 20 Celanese factory workers met with a North Carolina Credit Union League representative. The rather unusual name comes from two neighboring roads in Charlotte: Sharon Road and Fairview Road. After 60 years of growth and FOM expansion, Sharonview FCU has more than 73,500 members and assets in excess of $1.4 billion.
How the Certificate Special Compares
Allow me to state the obvious: Sharonview Federal Credit Union’s 64-month Certificate Special APY simply has no competition. I’ve chosen nationally available 5-year CDs for this comparison, given the SFCU’s easy membership requirement.
The above rates are accurate as of 3/2/2017.
To look for the best CD rates, both nationwide and state specific, please refer to our CD Rates Table page.
When you join via the Carolina chapter's website, you will wind up with an American Consumer Council certificate. My understanding is that's fine with Sharonview, if you live in NC, SC, GA, TN or VA.
But if you live elsewhere and join the Consumer Council via the Carolina chapter, and then apply for Sharonview membership: you may wind up with a Sharonview member number using the certificate, but it seems they'll eventually catch the error -- you'd then have to join Hobby Farmers or Charlotte Folk Society to get the CD.
So, unless you live in one of the specified states, I suggest that you don't try to join via the Carolina chapter.
Here is my best suggestion: When filling out the application online, select the CCC as your association. Then e-mail Sharonview a copy of your ACC certificate. That should work.
Incidentally, ACC membership gets you into quite a few credit unions all around the country. If you are not already a member, it costs only $8 to join.
At the conclusion of the online application I received a message saying they needed to see a copy of my driver's license. They provided me an e-mail address for that purpose, so I had the address to which I could send documents generally. Obviously in the body of the e-mail accompanying any document you must include your Application number. I e-mailed the copy of my driver's license immediately.
Anyway, despite not having used the CCC as my association initially, I thereafter started to noodle around the CCC website, poking here and there. Lo and behold their membership application was virtually identical to the one for the ACC! So I was like, why not try?! I used that same e-mail address I had used for my driver's license to e-mail them a copy of my ACC certificate, without really knowing for certain it would be accepted. Bottom line: it worked.
FWIW, the ACC is the parent organization of the CCC. So the two are VERY closely linked.
Can you confirm if it is a hard credit inquiry to become a member of Sharonview FCU?
Can you fund the certificate with a credit card?
No CC funding but they will do an ACH pull for the savings account funding.
Myself? I funded my accounts by check, mailed in yesterday via USPS.
Also, I asked a CSR that question earlier today. After checking with a supervisor, she said yes. I asked "even if I indicate when applying that I do NOT want a loan, a credit card, or even a debit card attached to my checking account"? She replied that the answer was still yes.
My ACC membership was pre-existing. I have been an ACC member for a while. I did not apply for CCC membership. Instead, noting the commonality between the two after perusing the CCC website, I took a shot that Sharonview might accept my ACC membership. They did.
Shouldn't that be "64-Month CD Special ($500 min)"?
THANKS
Time is of the essence. I did inquire earlier today and can report as follows:
The Sharonview "back office" does not operate over the weekend. They do have "front line" reps available weekends to answer the phone for routine matters, existing account inquiries, that sort of thing. But the pivotal folks who open new memberships and accounts do not work weekends. They will be back, but not until Monday morning.
I wonder if you can send them $350,000 and open two CDs, one for $250,000 and the other for $100,000. The $100,000 would be existing money, assuming you waited a few days before opening the CD.
I was able to apply for credit union membership and for the required savings account, using the Sharonview application. I was not able to apply for the 4% CD. When I completed the application and clicked "submit", the website congratulated me for "becoming a member of Sharonview Federal Credit Union", said my "account has been created", and gave me my membership number. I was informed I'll receive a welcome packet in the mail, and a Welcome Call from a CU representative
I received 2 automated e-mails. The first ("Your Account Application has been received") read, in part:
"We have received your application. Reviews are usually completed within one to two business days (though periods of higher volume can result in longer wait times). We will be in touch shortly if more information is needed. Approved applicants will be contacted within the next few days."
The second ("Account Application Acceptance Notification") was sent five minutes later, thanked me for my "interest in Sharonview" and continued:
"We have received your application. Reviews are usually completed within one to two business days (though periods of higher volume can result in longer wait times). We will be in touch shortly if more information is needed. Approved applicants will be contacted within the next few days."
I'll try to get through to them Monday. I'm not clear on my status and do not know how to apply for a Certificate of Deposit.
And congratulations to those who've managed to open CDs at Sharonview.
The first e-mail, "Your Accont Application has been received", said:
All membership applications are subject to verification of primary identifcation and other information you submitted in your application. A Sharonview representative will contact you during business hours to verify your application and discuss any details with you.
The second, "Account Application Acceptance Notification" read:
We have received your application. Reviews are usually completed within one to two business days (though periods of higher volume can result in longer wait times). We will be in touch shortly if more information is needed. Approved applicants will be contacted within the next few days.
Entirely my fault. I apologize again. And,depositaccounts.com: please bring back the edit function, or at least explain why it's been terminated.
I do not have the answer to your dilemma. Your process was somewhat different than mine. I can tell you when I sent (e-mailed) Sharonview a copy of my driver's license and a copy of my ACC certificate it appeared to make them happy and satisfy their concerns. Were I in your situation I would do that today, since there is no real downside and it might help facilitate things for you. Here is the e-mail address I used:
[email protected]
It is essential, in the body of your e-mail, to provide them your application number or your member number, or both, and include your documents as attachments.
One other question -- how does one apply for and fund the CD? It wasn't part of my application process.
After going through the online process completely, following which (unlike with yourself) they requested a copy of my driver's license, I immediately snail mailed Sharonview a (paper) check for my CD. In my (paper) letter of instruction accompanying the check, I explained the funds were intended to open a new 64 month CD at 4% APY.
And BTW, when I wrote "immediately" above that is what I meant. My mail had already been delivered. I had to drive ten miles down and back to the post office to post that letter to them. But I have no regrets whatsoever. I did not want to wait for the next day's mail. With deals of this sort, if you snooze you lose.
I decided to resend my Hobby Farmers of America $20 receipt. I faxed it yesterday & the rep said she couldn't find the fax. She said to call back Monday, but as you have said previously, "better safe" to double than wait.
We also do not know whether or not Sharonview will send out a no-activity warning message before imposing any possible fee. All of these details will become known in the fullness of time.
ETA
For anyone interested, here is a link to the Sharonview fees page:
https://www.sharonview.org/resources/rates-fees/fee-schedule
Also, note that they charge for incoming wires ($$ $$)
It is worth noting that the Fed currently considers the neutral Fed funds rate to be in the range of 2.5 - 3%. During the past 9 recessions, the average decrease in the Fed funds rate was about 4.2% or 420 basis points. Even excluding the 1982 recession, which led to a decline of 10+ %, the average rate decrease was 3.4% or 340 basis points. I would therefore suggest that it is likely that when our next recession hits, the Fed funds rate will return back to the 0 - 0.25% or 0.50% range. In that context, 3% or 4% CDs will be a good investment to have.
Yes, rates may and will probably increase over the next 18 months to 2 years (barring a recession). This is why there is value in setting up a CD ladder over time to stabilize your return and retain flexibility. Is putting all of your money into a 5-year 4% CD a good option? Probably not, but allocating a portion of available funds will represent a useful part of a CD ladder strategy. I think a good rule of thumb is when a new "deal" is 100 or more basis points above the next closest competitor, as Sharonview is (4% vs. 3%) it is worth adding to your ladder.
The current dot plot plan is to raise the Fed Funds rate to the neutral rate range by the end of 2019, so the best CD rates may appear in the Fall of 2019 or early to mid 2020. That said, we may see a surprise to the downside (recession) or a surprise to the upside (higher inflation) that alters this trajectory.
In light of this, I would lean towards the idea of a "barbell" CD ladder, with an emphasis on short-term rates (maturing within the next 2 years) to be ready for better deals in that time frame, but also some allocation to longer securities (5 year CDs with 3% or higher rates) to hedge against the "downside" possibility. I would avoid options that currently run between 2 and 5 years and are still in the 2% range, i.e., 3 or 4 year CDs.
Those don't contain the put provision, which, while seemingly costly, would be very valuable if CD's went to 6%
However, at this time next year, 4% may be very common for 4 and 5 year CDs.
I would normally answer the question affirmatively, particularly in a declining interest rate environment, but since rates do seem to be climbing at least in the short term, I think I will wait patiently for other opportunities. It's possible we might never see a 4% CD again, but even if we don't there should be more attractive CDs down the road.
Its interesting that this relatively small Credit Union wants deposits. Remember, deposits are "liabilities" on the balance sheet --and for a Credit Union , they must balance with assets (LOANS). So, a crude conclusion is that they have made too many loans and upset the balance--this is prominent due to their "outstanding" 4% offer versus the other Credit Union rates for the same term.
Nevertheless, thanks to Ken for the alert on this opportunity.
Lou, I would watch Navy Federal (branches and easy opening in California) and wish you good luck.
I was just at the local branch Friday asking about this, the rep I know said he was also wondering why the rates haven't gone up yet, He said he would talk to the manager this week about it and let me know. I have one coming due the 6th that needs a home.
In my case I do not run all over the country for a few more basis points, I want a place I can physically walk in the door and look someone in the face if things aren't right than emails or phone calls with "some rep" "somewhere".
I can certainly understand why some posters are interested in this deal, as I might be too if I didn't have to close another CD or sell some other investment in order to take advantage of it. I just think the amount of interest I would gain, since the maximum amount of the CD is capped, is not worth the all the work I would have to endure to get through the process with this credit union. I also think it's quite clear that interest rates are continuing their upward climb for the foreseeable future and there will be other opportunities in the future.
There have been a number of deals on depositaccounts.com in the last year where we have seen mass hysteria by posters. Guess what, most of these deals don't seem all that great right now. In the past, when we were experiencing a zero interest environment, it was understandable for posters to get excited when a good deal revealed itself on these boards. But the marketplace has now fundamentally changed and the current posters don't seem to recognize this reality. Today, it is advantageous to be patient, just the opposite of the way it use to be. Of course, many of us have been traumatized by the last 8 years, so it's understandable if they are still fighting the last war.
if i could just fill online forms,email my qualifying membership in acc, wire $250k and get it succesfullyndone in time to get the 4% inwould do it in a california minute
but
i get the idea from several posts it,s a week of axiety with chanevthe deal ends before my “entry” gets done and i have $250k hanging out in space
if the credit union said the deal is good as stated thru march, i would be on the phone monday
its a great deal even if rates reach 4% during next two years,, cause by then my cd with this credit union will only have two years to go
but, alas (to quote shakespear) to be or not to be that is the question
Perhaps things will be clearer on Monday. Perhaps not.
If you learn anymore tomorrow, please post about it. Thanks.
That's why I suggested you just go ahead and e-mail them what they need. Be certain to include, in the body of your e-mail, either your application number or your member number if you have it, or both. Attach copies of your documents. They do a good job processing those e-mails, capturing your documentation, and adding it to your new membership data. Once your profile is complete and has been accepted you are good to go.
Now is it possible they might want more documentation from you guys than from me? Sure, anything is possible. But I still think they are gonna want at least to see license and association documentation.
Their communications to me have not only been contradictory, but rather cryptic. No info as to process for signing up for online banking, no info about how to open additional accounts, such as CDs. More in the nature of "you're a member"; nope, "you're an applicant"; someone will contact you to welcome you; nope, someone will contact you if they want more info.
Based on your message, I think I'll give it a shot. Thanks,again (though I'm a getting a sinking feeling that, with my luck, I'll wind up being locked out of everything.)
I don't think anyone has reported actually having obtained a CD with an account number.
External Transfer: Incoming & Outgoing ($2,500) – Standard delivery No Charge
External Transfer: Outgoing (over $2,500) – Standard delivery $3.00
External Transfer: Incoming & Outgoing – Next business day $5.00 / Item
https://www.sharonview.org/resources/rates-fees/fee-schedule
My _guess_ is that this applies to transfers initiated via Sharonview's online banking system, not to transfers initiated at another institution's website.
Yours for uncertainty and doubt (but not fear)
alan1
apologies
The very first sentence in the section that deals with Carolina Consumer Council states: "Anyone, anywhere in the Carolinas, GA, TN or VA has the opportunity to join Sharonview through the Carolina Consumer Council."
So....
I wonder how others have received their membership # right away.
Was able to log into online banking this morning and initiate a ping for an external, local account. You can have up to 5 linked accounts.
Spoke with Christle x2665...a great help!
Regarding the 4% 64 mo certificate, among others, see the smaaler print footnote:
* Annual Percentage Yield (APY) is accurate as of 11/13/2017. These rates may change any time without prior notice. After your account is opened, the dividend rate may change
https://www.sharonview.org/resources/rates-fees/checking-savings-rates
MAYBE THEY MEAN (BACK IN 11/13/2017) THAT DONT EXPECT THIS RATE TO STAY
THE SAME AFTER YOU OPEN A CD AND PLAN TO OPEN ANOTHE ONE??
Hence the word CERTIFICATE (derived from the word CERTIFIED).
The small asterisk * you reference in the fine print isn't referring to the CD accounts, but to
SharonView's Savings accounts. If you read further down that page they also refer to what are called 'non-term' accounts and APYs.
I think there's some misinformation here.
CD rates are locked in until their term has expired and /or matured.
No regrets I'm sitting out the ruckus.
If you have extra money you can keep on deposit for several years, you'll get a stronger, stable return when you open this Share Certificate. Unlike the stock market where funds are not insured and are at risk, this Share Certificate earns a guaranteed rate of return, and credit union accounts are federally insured up to $250,000 by the NCUA**.
First of all, Sharonview has Excellent Customer Service! Besides the CD, I may very well stay with them for other products as well, as EVERYONE I spoke to along the way went out of their way to be helpful, even while I'm sure they're being swamped. Very good experience all around.
Early Friday, I filled out their on-line application, and received an automated email telling me I'd need to email them copies of my ID. At this point though, I may have been lucky, for when I called on Friday with some questions, the helpful CSR then transferred me to some department or branch somewhere (not the normal CSR dept) where a very helpful lady answered my questions, told me her name, and what she needed from me. Friday evening I emailed the requested documents.
Monday morning after getting thru to the main CSR line (not too bad, about 10 mins) I asked to be transferred to the lady I'd spoken to before. Then everything went silent, and I waited for 40 minutes until hanging up (no hold music, no voicemail, just silence). I called back, spoke to another CSR (who apologized profusely, very friendly) and she tried again. Same thing: only silence (no hold music, voicemail, or anything). This time I waited only about 15 mins before calling back, because I think it's their phone system going buggy because so many people are calling (I certainly don't mind holding, but it was apparent that the transfers weren't going through). When I spoke to the 3rd CSR this morning, like all the others, he was apologetic and extremely helpful, offering to message the lady I was trying to reach and had spoken to on Friday. The lady messaged back that she was on the phone with someone else, but would call me back. She did so within the hour -- and by the time she called back, she had already created my account! She gave me my Acct #, and said that with this account number I could go into any shared branch and make my deposit. There was one more set of forms I needed to sign -- with her on the phone, she emailed them to me, and I "signed" them online with the document signging service they use. Then I told her I'd be ready to create the CD by the end of the day, and she offered to call me back a little before the close of the business day. I then drove to a shared branch credit union that's about 20 mins away from me (the closest that's a shared branch CU), made my deposit to the account number she gave me, then called her back (she had given me an extention to try to reach her or her co-workers at if I wanted to reach her before the end of the day, but if she hadn't heard from me by the end of the day, she'd call me back). I reached her, she verified that the deposit I'd made at the shared branch CU had already shown up, and within 10 seconds she created my CD. In the mail, I requested she send me a "real" signagure card (as the online one just uses computer fonts -- and I think I'll be staying with these guys in the coming years, so I want a real signature card), as well as a beneficiary request form. For those interested, she said on the beneficiary request form you can either select just for one particular account, or all (global) non-IRA accounts for the same beneficiaries. She also said an ATM would be forthcoming within 7-10 business days.
Note that I will not post the extention of the person I dealt with (because then thousands of people will be trying to reach just her. Don't bother asking, I won't post it), but I wanted to relate this experience to everyone to let them know that while they're swamped, they ARE trying -- and they all want to help as much as they can. It might take a couple days under normal circumstances for whoever deals with the applications to deal with the deluge they're getting... my suggestion is to give them a bit of time, and maybe check back every day or two. It may seem like nothing's happening, but know that that from everyone I spoke to, they really are trying their best. Once your account is created, you can get right to it.. and if you're worried about the timeframe, consider that once you have your account, you can use a Shared Branch CU to get your funds to Sharonview instantly.
Keep in mind also that Shared Branch is an option to get funds there if you don't want to deal with the US Mail, ACH, or a Wire. Just use google to find a Shared Branch CU in your area (you don't have to be a member of it) and once you have your Sharonview Savings Account #, that's all you need (plus ID). Note that with some "Shared Branch" CUs, only CERTAIN BRANCHES are "Shared Branch" -- call to verify which branches are, before you drive there.
They're swamped... but excellent Customer Service!
I called today since no one has contacted me. Both times I was told that I am a member, and that my account was open. I was told I could get a CD by:
a) going to a branch;
b) going to a shared credit union to deposit funds to Sharonview and then calling Sharonview to open the CD;
c) sending a check, with letter of instruction to open the CD, to their corporate headquarters in South Carolina or to the branch I had selected at the beginning of the online application process.
(Getting the 4% CD is contingent on Sharonview receiving the check before the offer ends.)
I'm going to wait until Sharonview pulls the $5 to open the required savings account, as per the online application process. If that delay causes me to miss out on the promotion, no big deal. Based on my experience, and on what I've read here, I'd prefer to wait until I'm more confident that I am actually a member.
Thanks to all who have posted comments describing their experiences with Sharonview.
When calling their 800 number, and pressing "0" then "1", if you then don't get hold music/a recording within 15 seconds, hang up and call back again (you'll be hanging on the line for nothing). You might have to do this a number of times. But, if, after pressing "0" then "1", you start hearing their hold recording, just hang on the line, and someone will indeed come on the line when they get to you.
I am sure the fine folk here receive, and read, the Disclosure Statement before opening any CD.
So early this morning I posted, like others I was told I must wait for an e-mail or phone call from a rep to obtain a membership #.
So, I followed Kaight's advice after I knew all my documents were in Sharonview FCU hands. I called & waited for a time for a rep. Finally someone answered, I told this rep that other folks were receiving their Membership #'s. So she passed my call to someone who could finish my application & give me a Mem #. He was very competent.
I drove to the PO with my check & the correct address for posting. All & All, this deal cost me $20 for the Hobby Farmer & $7 for Priority Mail. The mail should be in NC by Wednesday. Hopefully done deal by the end of this week.
My own error, and this does impact you as well, was total failure last week of geographical awareness regarding Fort Mill, SC. My mind was like: Oh, OK, South Carolina. Should be fine. What an idiot.
I have just checked, a little late, the Wikipedia page for USPS sectional centers. Here it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectional_center_facility
It was not until my conversation yesterday with a Sharonview rep, and this came as an aside not as anything I thought was important at the time, that I began to realize the mailing jeopardy into which I had placed myself. I looked at a map and I still did not get it. But this morning, after learning my mail did not reach Ft. Mill as I had anticipated, I finally put two and two together. The sectional center for Ft. Mill, South Carolina is actually in Charlotte, NC. Charlotte is a big city with big city postal service.
I'd like to think that, in my younger days, I would have picked this up in time. Sharonview members have the option of sending their deposits via USPS to their chosen branch, instead of to Ft. Mill. My chosen branch is Greenville, SC. If I had had the foresight to send my deposit there it would by now most likely be in my account . . . instead of still in the mail! If I miss the deal because of this error the penalty will be well deserved. When one does stupid things one cannot anticipate good outcomes. I'm hoping for the best.
As for you, pattyb53, your use of Priority Mail most likely will save you from my fate, and I hope it does. I did not use Priority Mail. But I did post my deposit back on March first, blissfully unaware USPS routing would take my letter through Charlotte.
ETA
For anyone going forward wanting to have a better handle on this sort of thing, here is a link to the USPS sectional center facility (SCF) chart:
https://pe.usps.com/Archive/HTML/DMMArchive20060108/L005.htm
Using my own error as an example, you can readily see from the chart the difference between a zip prefix of 297 (Ft. Mill) and 296 (Greenville). Greenville actually is its own sectional center for goodness sake! Oh, well.
I will be closely checking my tracking today.
The first entry is now "Carolina Consumer Council (North or South Carolina, GA, TN, VA)"
So I bought another 2.25% at Nasa yesterday.
Meantime, I bought a Hobby Farmer membership on Friday with PayPal. That purchase is still "on hold," even though I paid through my available paypala balance and they received it immediately. So still waiting for a member number from them, too.
Tough deal so far. Those sitting on the sidelines may be the winners here. Eating a hard pull, spending $20, and phone run around is frustrating for an extra 1% over what's available from more reasonable institutions.
I did like the picture of this lady with all the prized hens around her.
1. I applied for membership on Friday and received an application (not member #).
2. Before they even asked, I emailed them a copy of my driver's license and proof of association. My credit report accounts are frozen so I temporarily unfroze transunion and received an access code which I also emailed before they even asked. I used the ACC as I don't live anywhere near the Carolinas.
3. I called today (Tuesday) first thing in the morning and asked about the status of my application. The representative verified who I was and said someone from the branch location I picked on the app would be contacting me today. An hour later I received a call from a representative and confirmed I was approved and just needed to Docusign some forms. I received them within five minutes after i got off the phone with him.
4. I signed the forms via Docusign and five minutes later the representative emailed me confirming he got the signed forms and I was good to go. I now had a member #.
5. I went online and signed up for an online account.
6. I then went to a shared co-op branch and dropped off my check.
7. Came back home and logged in. My deposit showed in my account.
8. I emailed the representative stating I made the deposit to fund the CD.
9. The representative emailed me 10 minutes later and informed me he transferred the deposit into a new CD.
10. I immediately checked my account and the CD was opened just as he said.
I'm thinking what branch they have listed that you pick and who looks at your app makes a difference. I just picked Spartanburg for no particular reason and I have no complaints. The representative that helped me was great on the phone, answered all my questions and responded to my emails very quickly.
ridicoulus.
1. Applied over the weekend and received a member number (but that was onscreen at the end of the application; it did not come over email).
2. I also emailed a driver's license scan and ACC membership.
3. I received a call today and was told that because I'm not in NC, SC, GA, TN, or NJ that I can't join based on ACC; however, the CSR suggested without my prompting that I could join the Hobby Farmers of America. During the call, I asked about using a shared branch to make a deposit to fund the CD special offering and was told that I could not.
4. However, a few minutes later, I received an email message from the same CSR stating that I could use the shared branch deposit (and was also given the instructions on how to do so in the email). The CSR also asked me for what amount I would want to open the CD. The CSR used that information to set up the CD in advance, awaiting the funding. That email message was helpful, because it then gave me a direct way to contact the same CSR with any additional documentation.
5. I then joined the HFA and took a screenshot of the receipt indicating payment, emailing it to the CSR.
6. Went to the shared branch and deposited the check.
7. Sent an email stating that I had deposited the check and asked the CSR to use the deposit to fund the CD.
8. Received a scanned copy of the receipt indicating that was done (and have confirmed the same online).
I agree with Ariz that experiences will likely vary somewhat based on the branch, but like so many others, have had a good experience. I'm also impressed that the different branches seem to have enough instruction to get things done reasonably quickly. (I compare this experience favorably to a couple of the other hot deals from the past year.)
The funds go into the basic savings account and then you can contact the CSR to have the funds put into the CD.
Today a different rep told me ACC was NG. Unacceptable. "But, but" I stammered, explaining the above. "Hobby Farmers or you cannot move forward with funding your accounts" she insisted. What was I to do? Join Hobby Farmers, that's what I did, and immediately, too. Oh, well. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.
Despite the above wrinkle I am very happy with Sharonview and would recommend this 4% CD to others. Thank you, Ken, for a great CD deal!!
Early this morning, tracking my mail, it had only progressed to Sacramento CA. Hope it makes a big jump later & lands in Charlotte, NC tomorrow.
I never thought about the co-op route for moving my check faster. Anyway we will see what happens next. Actually I don't even see my $5 in the Savings yet. It still shows --$5.00
Yes, it's still a good deal & the reps are quite competent. It's actually only been a few days since we started this adventure.
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Some finer points:
- I had to temporarily unfreeze Transunion and Chexsystems (thanks to folks on this site)
- I had tried joining via ACC but was told I cannot due to residing outside of the ACC states they support; so I joined Hobby Farmers. While it directed me to Paypal, on the paypal page, I just used a credit card option from there and paid with a credit card directly.
- The Hobby Farmers page, when I looked closely, has a small section saying that if you are joining them for this credit union, you can just send the email of payment as proof and it will be sufficient. Hobby Farmers clearly noticed the inflow :-) Anyway, that's what I sent the CSR that's been helping me and it sufficed. I had also emailed DL copy.
- Thanks to anon4567, I used Shared Branch for the first time and was very pleased. I deposited a couple personal checks and they appeared in their system right away. When I shortly called my CSR to ask to open the CD, she said she cannot be cause money from the checks will be on hold for a week. I insisted and after she checked with supervisor, they agreed to open the CD and have the CD funds on hold - fine by me :-) ... The CD got open right away then.
- Shared branch just needed by DL and account number at the credit union. I deposited some cash as well - that one was available right away.
- I am told different beneficiaries can be setup on different CD accounts. I have some more money on the way and will setup different beneficiaries so as to be under $250max limit. Note that I want both the original 250k + all the interest that accumulates over then next 5 years to be insured, so I need at least 2 beneficiaries for that.
- Everything has been done via electronically.
Has anyone else had a problem receiving the DocuSign e-mail from Sharonview? I had forgotten that I was supposed to get it. I called yesterday afternoon; the Sharonview representative said she would promptly contact the branch i had selected to get them to send me the DocuSign material. I still have not received anything.
Commentary
Going back to the Andrews deal, I remember thinking their 3% CD offering back then was merely the first of a LONG string of CD opportunities just as good or better coming very shortly thereafter. Well, I certainly got that wrong!
4% is an outstanding CD interest rate today, right now, and I'm concerned about making the same mistake twice. While I believe rates are ascending, most remain a goodly distance away from 4%. The interest rate future could not be more uncertain, and a 4% bird in hand is better than a 5% or 6% bird in flight off in the distance and unable clearly to be seen. So if I'm able I'm gonna open another Sharonview CD . . . if I can get the money there in time.
I too have the impression that these types of deals often terminate upon close of business Friday.
Keep in mind also that Shared Branch is an option to get funds there if you don't want to deal with the US Mail, ACH, or a Wire. Just use google to find a Shared Branch CU in your area (you don't have to be a member of it) and once you have your Sharonview Savings Account #, that's all you need (plus ID). Note that with some "Shared Branch" CUs, only CERTAIN BRANCHES are "Shared Branch" -- call to verify which branches are, before you drive there.
They're swamped... but excellent Customer Service!
I used Google to locate the nearest such facility. It would be a 60 mile round trip for me, to a location where I have no other business. There actually is a small city closer to me than that, a place to which I must travel anyway, for other reasons. But there are no shared branches in that entire city, or anywhere NEAR to that city. I guess it is fair to say shared branches work for many people, but not for everyone.
Next I had to setup ACH to send funds. Today the funds were sent and I was able to open the CD.
I had very very positive experience with the customer service representatives. I liked the information they gave and liked their accent even more! In CA I don't get to hear that sort of accent often.
You're right, the ACH initiated using Sharonview can support tiny amounts only. Maybe we all should encourage Sharonview to raise the permitted amount. After 64 months having larger amounts will be useful for several of us when the CDs we've opened will mature and we'll need to withdraw the funds.
One detail to share, which initially caused me a little concern but was answered this morning. Initially, on Monday several CDs were "created" but with a zero balance - I was in the process of sending funds. I could see those CDs in my Sharonview account online. Late yesterday afternoon, however, they disappeared. At that time I thought this could either be a normal systems procedure, by which empty CDs were removed after a day or so, or it could be a sign that Sharonview was preparing to end the offer. When I called this morning to finish the process, I asked about that. Turns out it is simply part of their normal systems procedure. So, nothing to worry about in itself, although of course the offer could still end at any time.
Like everyone else, I asked this morning about when they might end it, as I asked Monday. My rep. said "even upper management is not sure", and then said his understanding is that they have a certain dollar limit to reach, then they will stop. He did not know what that limit was, or how close they were to it.
Very possibly they do not want to release that exact dollar limit, or say how close they currently are to it, for competitive reasons.
Also, you must be a mind reader as you state "The question everyone ...".
If you got the 4% and your happy great. My time is valuable and the more hours I bill the more I get paid.
Plus, I educated myself regarding the usefulness of Co-Op Shared Branching, which I'm pretty sure I'll use again.
Plus, as a member of the Charlotte Folk Society, I now "receive discounts at The Violin Shoppe, Wax Museum, and Woody’s (Rock Hill and York)". So there!.
It takes just 4 depositors with 250k to make 1 million.
If they are getting 100 depositors then in a months time we are talking about some real money.
The general statement does say when dividends are credited, they become principal. Which is fine as long as alternative rates are low. But, the inability to withdraw dividends does extend the duration. Normally the best financial option is to allow dividends to accrue and withdraw them without penalty if rates increase.
I called and emailed Sharonview, requesting a copy of the statement for this CD. The representative told me no one had asked for a copy prior to purchasing the CD, which is sad, but not a surprise. I can't comprehend how consumers can buy a CD without reading the terms.
- Following is what Sharonview lists in the "MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT & DISCLOSURES" document, under the section titled "TERM SHARE CERTIFICATE ACCOUNTS (Share Certificate and IRA Certificate Accounts)" - "Item 8.Early Withdrawal Penalties - All Certificate Accounts."
"You have agreed to leave the principal of this account on deposit for the full term stated in your Certificate. If all or part of the principal is withdrawn before the maturity date, the Credit Union may charge you a penalty. Withdrawal of the principal amount of your Certificate may be made only with the consent of the Credit Union. Unless stated otherwise, owners of accounts with a stated term of one year or less shall forfeit an amount equal to up to 90 days dividends on the amount withdrawn, or the length of the term, whichever is less, when any withdrawal is allowed. Unless stated otherwise, owners of accounts with a stated term of more than one year shall forfeit an amount equal to up to 180 days dividends on the amount withdrawn, or the length of the term, whichever is less, when any withdrawal is allowed. The penalty may be calculated at the rate paid on the deposit at the time of the withdrawal. The penalty will, if necessary, be taken from the principal amount of the deposit. The Credit Union may grant a premature withdrawal request without penalty or with a reduced penalty in the event of the owner’s death or legal incompetence; or if your account is an IRA account and the account is revoked within seven (7) days after the IRA Disclosure Statement is received; or when the account is an IRA account and the owner qualifies pursuant to applicable law."
Note the "Unless stated otherwise," clauses.
https://www.sharonview.org/resources/rates-fees/checking-savings-rates
If you are worried that Sharonview will deny your EW, then don't put all your money in it. I only put in part of my savings as a part of my CD adder and will ride the term out until maturity.
I have seen nothing that leads me to believe that a checking account is required to open the CD -- just the $5 savings account.
I requested a copy of the disclosure by phone, and then sent a secure message through the customer portal. No response after 1-2 days.
I saw the website last week and earlier this week, and I have a strong recollection it stated 365 days. So, if it is 365 days, why would the company remove the language from the website? No rational reason.
I thought my story would be over by now with this funded 4% CD in hand. But unfortunately not yet. I could log into my account several days ago but no CD there. I mailed my check by Priority mail 3/5 promised arrival Wed 3/7. Tracking closely, the mail has only arrived in Fayettville (sp), not yet in Charlotte NC. I traveled over to my PO to ask what is the holdup. Probably weather, anyway perhaps arrival tomorrow 3/9.
I'm beginning to wonder if this was a big hoax. lol So next time I would have tried the Co-op route.
So Kaight, you are going to try adding another CD with Sharonview? You should know all the procedures & answers by now. I still agree that their agents are very competent. Mine still is watching the mail & will get back to me if my check arrives tomorrow.
Now after going through all of this and getting the account open and squared away I am thinking about breaking another CD I have with several years left to maturity that is only paying 2.3% and doing another wire transfer but I think I will only take that on if the rate is still 4% on Monday. BTW the CSR I spoke to stated that if your transfer/mail was initiated/postmarked before any rate change and you made your intention known in advance they would still honor the 4% rate even after the special ends. Not sure too many other institutions would do that these days.
Be careful! Also make sure you are a member (not only an order #) for the Folk or Farmer group to have the NCUA insurance protection in place. Insurance companies look for reasons not to pay out.
But if you live elsewhere and join the Consumer Council via the Carolina chapter, and then apply for Sharonview membership: you may wind up with a Sharonview member number using the certificate, but it seems they'll eventually catch the error -- you'd then have to join Hobby Farmers or Charlotte Folk Society to get the CD.
So, unless you live in one of the specified states, I suggest that you don't try to join via the Carolina chapter.
I received a generic "Welcome" packet yesterday, but not nothing showing a CD was opened, or the other documents I requested (like a beneficiary form) -- though those may arrive today. However, I'm asking if anyone has received such printed acknowledgement of the CD in the mail, as looking at your accounts online will only show you have a 64mo CD and the amount deposited -- but not any of the terms (such as the interest rate or EWP).
Someone mentioned signing a rate sheet with DocuSign. For what it's worth, I never signed a rate sheet or any documents with the EWP or terms of the CD. I had another look at the documents I signed with DocuSign, and the DocuSign summary lists: "Document Pages: 3, Certificate Pages: 4, Signatures: 2" and the documents signed were only "Account Service Enrollment Designation" and "Membership Acct Application".
However, their website itself still seems fairly speedy.
Hopefully that promise will also be valid for funds reaching them Thursday and today.
Will write back on Monday with update about what happened.
may need some real good luck .
you have mine
Using a little Bozo logic:
Suppose you are mailing a $100K check and it is limbo in the mail and then it later arrives on someone's desk at the credit union waiting to be processed for 10 days. If you would have wired it and stayed on top of it, it would go in your account almost immediately and start earning interest at least within one day's time. Removing the worry that your funds will get there on time and at the right place is another added benefit of doing the wire. What is the extra cost for doing the wire versus the apx. extra 10 days of 4% interest that you would earn for wiring the funds versus the wait time by mailing? Well you do the math on that one.
Since Sharonview participates in Co-Op Shared Branching I used that. I used plain old paper personal checks for the deposits. They worked fine. The rep. I dealt with simply transferred the hold on the checks, to the CDs that were cut.
1. Great rate
2. Great account opening process
3. Great customer service
4. Great notice to keep members well informed
All around great experience.
Waiting for their next special :-)
I had to close a couple of CDs with 180-day interest penalties to take advantage of this deal. It will take 12 months to recoup the penalty. I might regret this if there are better deals in the next 12-24 months, but I long ago have ceased trying to forecast interest rates, an exercise in futility in which I am rarely right.
I was under the impression that it was close to immediate (as opposed to score calculation, which is more periodic), but my membership was finalized a week ago and I can find no recent hard pulls on Credit Karma. Thanks in advance.
https://help.creditkarma.com/hc/en-us/articles/202627710-How-often-does-my-credit-report-information-update-
Some misc info others may find useful:
(1) ATM cards: can be used to make WITHDRAWALS from any Co-Op ATM but NOT Deposits. Deposits are allowed at CoOp Shared Branches but not CoOp ATMs. The ATM card (when using a non-Sharonview CoOp ATM) is for withdrawals only. I tested this myself, and it wouldn't allow a deposit.
(2) Sharonview does not have a typical printout that most other CUs or banks will send you when you open your CD (showing full terms of the CD, penalties, date opened, maturity date, etc). The best they could offer was just the generic rate sheet (that shows 365 days interest on the amount withdrawn as the EWP) and the interest rate. I had to call to find out the exact maturity date, but don't have it printed anywhere. Oh well :)
(3) There is a 5 business day grace period after the CD matures (and many will find theirs matures around the July 4th holiday period).
It's only at times like this I had a wife and children
The wife and kids comment threw me.
Then all I need is a $1 mill car loan
Does anyone know how long it takes Credit Karma to show a hard pull from TransUnin or Equifax (the 2 that they partner with)? Thanks.
Interested in this CD is COMPOUNDED MONTHLY
(For the record, since there's no documentation that states this).
Monthly = 3.92849 = 4%
I want to thank Ken first and most of all. Without him we would not have known about this great CD. Thanks also to other posters here whose helpful posts supported our efforts to take advantage of this remarkable CD deal. Finally, thanks to President Trump. CD rates like this did not come along for many years until he assumed office.
We only hope Sharonview is not both the first and last such opportunity for us to invest at a higher interest rate. That would not be a good thing. We are hoping for the best, hoping more CDs like the one we have at Sharonview will become available as our existing certificates mature in the future.
I received a INVOICE from HOBBY FARMERS that PayPal was going to debit my account for HF Dues. They did explain what I need to do to Cancel. This was not something I expected since I do not remember signing up for Auto Renewal. I plan to Cancel this as Soon as possible or ask for Refund if it has already processed.
My sincere apology to a DA poster who inquired about this and I said Do not worry about it.
PLease Check your method of payment when you applied for membership to SHARONVIEW FCU.