10,000th Post Milestone - Look Back at 8 Years of Bank Deals and News
We’re celebrating a milestone today. This is the 10,000th blog post since I started the Bank Deals Blog in August 2005.
Thanks so much to all of you who have been regular readers and commenters throughout the years.
I started the Bank Deals Blog over eight years ago in August 2005. As a fellow saver, I was always on the lookout for bank deals. In 2005 I decided to start this blog to help others find those deals and to encourage collaboration among savers to help each other find the deals and to learn about the various issues and gotchas. The blog and the readership grew more than I could have ever imagined. In 2009 when I was offered a partnership, I decided it was a great opportunity to grow the blog into an even more useful resource. That’s when the Bank Deals Blog at Blogger was converted into DepositAccounts.com, a self-hosted website that allowed for features like rate tables, a bank database, and a discussion forum. In addition to rates, the bank database holds financial health data, branch locations and user ratings.
Over the history of the website, users have posted over 75,000 blog comments or forum posts. We're now tracking almost 300,000 rates from thousands of banks and credit unions. When rates change, readers can be automatically notified by email through our bank alert system. Readers have signed up for more than 6,000 bank alerts.
I thought it would be interesting to look back at some of the past deals and news mentioned at DepositAccounts.com over the eight years.
What Were Your Favorite Deals?
Before I review the past deals and news, I want to ask you to recall your favorite deals that you learned about from DepositAccounts.com. Did the deal turn out to be as good as it sounded? Also, how has the website helped you with your savings? Please leave a comment. Your testimonies would be greatly appreciated.
CDs vs Stock Market
I know most financial planners will stress how important it is to invest in stocks for long-term growth. Those who invest in stocks will have to be prepared for risk and volatility. We saw this back in 2008 and 2009 when the stock market tanked. You may not want to invest all of your savings in CDs, but for the part you want to keep safe, CDs can offer reasonable gains without any risk. And if you use DepositAccounts.com to find the best deals, your CD returns can be improved without any additional risk.
I thought it would be interesting to compare an investment in select CDs with a stock market investment. The following chart compares the performance of two investments made about eight years ago when this blog started. The first is a $100,000 investment in the Vanguard S&P 500 Index Fund. The performance shown for this investment includes appreciation and dividend reinvestment.
The second is a $100,000 investment in select CDs. Instead of using past average CD rates, I chose CDs that were nationally available and had top rates. The first CD I chose was offered at Patelco Credit Union in January 2006. It had a 5.00% APY and a term of 12 months. When that CD matured, the PenFed CDs with a 6.25% APY became available. So the second CD I chose was a 7-year PenFed CD with a 6.25% APY.
Even with this year’s big stock market gains, the total return of the CD investment is pretty close to the stock market investment. The primary difference is that the CD investment only grew. The value didn’t plummet like the S&P index fund did in 2008 and 2009.
Deals and News Back in 2005
My first blog post was "Online Banks Battle For Our Dollars" in August 2005, and the post had a review of three online banks: ING DIRECT, EmigrantDirect and HSBC. It’s interesting to see how things have changed since then. ING DIRECT is now Capital One 360, and like eight years ago, it still offers competitive rates. Since 2005, Emigrant Bank added two more internet divisions: DollarSavingsDirect and MySavingsDirect. All three offer internet savings accounts, but only MySavingsDirect has a competitive rate. Finally, HSBC has essentially given up on its internet savings account. The rate has dropped to an uncompetitive level of only 0.05%.
The big news at the end of August 2005 was Hurricane Katrina. One bank made news about what it did after the hurricane. EmigrantDirect issued gifts of $1,000 to all of its customers affected by Hurricane Katrina.
Past Savings and Money Market Account Deals
The interest rate environment has been tough on savers over the last six years, but there have been a few good savings account deals. The best ones offered not only a top rate but a rate guarantee for a certain period of time.
One of the first nationwide deals I reported on was at ING DIRECT. In early 2006 it launched the Winter Save Up Sale which guaranteed 4.75% on new money in its savings account through April 15.
In 2007 HSBC’s internet division HSBC Direct ran a promotion that was very similar to ING’s Winter Save Up Sale, but the promo rate was higher. HSBC guaranteed 6.00% APY on new money in its online savings account until April 30th. An even better deal came up later that year when FNBO Direct offered 6.00% APY on its new internet savings account until September 28th. The only problem with FNBO Direct was that it was a new internet bank which had many problems, and that angered many Bank Deal readers.
A top rate with a rate guarantee is a nice way for new internet banks to get noticed. That’s what CNB Bank Direct did in 2008 when it offered a 4.00% APY on its no-minimum online savings account and guaranteed that rate for the first 6 months of account opening. One thing we learned with CNB Bank Direct is that you can’t assume internet banks will keep their rates competitive. CNB Bank Direct kept their rates competitive for a couple of years after this promo, but the rates kept falling, and its savings account now has a pathetic rate of 0.21%.
Not all of the best savings account promotions had rate guarantees. Some of the best deals offered a cash bonus. One noteworthy one was at WT Direct which offered a bonus of up to $500 for new deposits in its online savings account.
Past CD Deals
If we had an award for the institution that has offered the most and the best CD promotions since this blog started, I would give PenFed the prize. PenFed has consistently offered great CD deals. Back in early 2007, PenFed offered CDs with a 6.25% APY for terms from three to seven years. Then when this awful interest rate environment was well entrenched in late 2010, PenFed offered a 5% CD. It had a very long term of 10 years and it wasn’t advertised to everyone, but it offered savers a CD rate that hadn’t been seen since 2008. This year it seemed PenFed would never get back to its good old days with top CD rates, but it pleasantly surprised many of us in November with a 2.02% APY 3-year CD and this month with a 3.04% APY 5-year CD.
Reward Checking Accounts
Reward checking accounts first began to be introduced in the early days of the Bank Deals Blog. My first report on a reward checking account was in September 2006. A small Arkansas bank was offering a checking account with a 6.01% APY for balances up to $25,000 if certain monthly requirements (like 10 debit card purchases) were met. The popularity of these accounts exploded in 2007. During the years from 2007 to 2009 I was reporting on a new reward checking account every other day.
The best reward checking account deals came out in 2007 from institutions like State Bank of Toledo and First Arkansas Bank and Trust which offered rates close to 6.00% with no balance caps. As we know, this didn’t last. Rates fell and balance caps were introduced. However, after seven years, hundreds of banks and credit unions continue to offer reward checking accounts with rates higher than what you can get from internet savings accounts. All have balance caps, but many still have caps of $25,000 which still makes the reward checking accounts worthwhile for many savers.
Past Bank Failures
When I first started the Bank Deals Blog, bank failures were rare. In fact, there were no bank failures in 2005 and 2006, and there were only three failures in 2007. That changed with the start of the financial crisis in 2008. The number of bank failures went from 25 in 2008 to 157 in 2010, the peak year.
One of the first bank failures that I reported on was the closure of Netbank in 2007. This bank was closed in September 2007, and the FDIC arranged for ING DIRECT to assume insured deposits. Many Netbank customers who had deposits over the FDIC limit lost money.
It was common for those with uninsured deposits to lose money at failed banks, but that changed after IndyMac Bank failed in July 2008. It failed right before the financial crisis reached its peak, and the FDIC began arranging purchase agreements that required the acquiring banks to assume all deposits of failed banks. Thus, the large majority of banks that failed after IndyMac did not cost depositors any money, even if they had balances over the insured limits. The main worry for depositors was the loss of the high CD rates since the acquiring banks were allowed to lower the interest rates on existing CDs.
The largest bank failure in U.S. history occurred during the financial crisis when WaMu failed and was acquired by Chase. This failure was bad news for WaMu shareholders, but it had little impact on WaMu depositors. In fact, depositors were able to get top CD rates at WaMu for several weeks after the Chase acquisition. Eventually, those deals ended and rates plummeted as Chase transitioned WaMu into its banking system.
There were also failures of institutions that pretended to be banks. One interesting case was the Caribbean-based Millennium Bank. This "bank" advertised heavily on the internet with unusually high CD rates. I reviewed this "bank" in 2005 and warned of several red flags. It turned out to be a ponzi scheme. It was shut down by the SEC in 2007.
Favorite Past Deals? Future Wants? Predictions?
Don’t forget to comment about your past favorite deals that you learned about from DepositAccounts.com. In addition to deals, how has DepositAccounts.com helped you with your savings? Also, we don’t want to rest on our laurels. Are there any improvements you would like to see at DepositAccounts.com?
And finally, do you have any predictions about interest rates or the banking industry eight years from now when we will hopefully be nearing our 20,000th post?
I thought it would be fun to include a poll that asks what will be the rate of the top internet savings account eight years from now. Will we see those 5% savings account rates again?
A graph of some typical CD ladders starting in 2006 would paint a much different picture.
Ken, it wasn't as large of an overall amount because of the max deposit cap, but one of the deals that stands out to me was the WT Direct deal you mentioned. I remember the scramble to get into that deal as it was very short-lived and a lot of people weren't able to get in in time. I was at the beach with my family and ended up spending more time than I had hoped in the room trying to move everything around for that deal.
The ways your site has helped me are too many to mention. A big congrats on the 10,000th post. Here's hoping we're finally moving back in the right direction towards some of those rates you mentioned from yesteryear. I hope the recent PenFed increase wasn't just a tease.
In 2006 we purchased several 6.25% CD's. We purchased reg CD's, traditional and Roth IRA's. They are maturing the end of this month and next year. Ken is posting also on the 6.25% CD's that many of us purchased at PenFed. Before that many of us had CD's that we purchased in and around 1999-2000 for between 8 -10%. There seems to be a 5 to 8 year cycle in rates.
Ken thank you for all your help. You have helped millions of us I am sure.
money in the mkt. and 1/2 in stocks/bonds etc. The results as of today have
been just about the same $ wise.......considerably less aggravation with the
c/d's but better tax consequences with stocks, bonds etc. We will continue to
keep our "has to be safe" money in the c/d's .... you introduced us to Credit
Unions--which has been a blessing. Of particular benefit has been Navy FCU,
Pentagon FCU, Library of Congress FCU and Velocity CU. Keep up the great
work--it is appreciated immensely. The c/d's enable us to have alternate
(growth type investments) and be able to sleep well at night.
We hope that you are not incurring a great expense in maintaining this blog
site--if so we would be willing to pay a small yearly fee for your service..
($10-20/yearly).
Thanks again and happy holidays.
Now savers are subsidizing borrowers. Big corporations with many dollars on their balance sheet (but parked overseas) go to the market and borrow at fixed or manipulated low interest rates and you can guess who is on the losing side of the deal, the ordinary saver. (If they want to bring the money back to the U.S. the corporation has to pay taxes on it and they don't want to do that so they will issue low interest bonds here so all of us ordinary folks can buy them and earn substandard returns. ) Then the corporation repurchases stock so their stock price will go up. A perfect example is Carl Ichan's call for Apple to buy back $50 billion of stock. Of course, Apple has not agreed yet, but you see the picture. So who will be benefitting -- the billionaires and those betting or gambling with the assistance of margin. All of this, of course, comes with the blessing of Ben Bernanke who wants everyone to take on risk, including the elderly and other savers. Thank you no, I'll pass on the risk. I'd rather do with less and not wake up one day to find I only have half of what I thought I had due to a major stock market correction.
I do enjoy Rick Santelli's commentary on CNBC TV. I think he tells it like it is and this morning, he was telling us to watch the 10 year Treasury Bond, which again is inching towards 3%. Late yesterday on Fast Money, Dennis Gartman of the Gartman letter, said he sees 4% on the 10 year Treasury come 2014. So right now I am content with around 1% on insured liquid money. I am sure one of these days that a CD offer will come up that I cannot refuse so I am waiting before committing to any long term deals.
Ken , i think you should have a hall of shame for the banks that are paying the lowest CD rates ..ie.0.20% for BOA 5yr. cd geez
THis has been a fantastic resourse ... I got in on the aforementioned 6.25% 7yr. due 1/30/14 :( ......Also remember once Midwest credit union was paying 7.15% on reward checking ..not sure if heard that here ..
the other day needed to know the EWP for a cd taken out at pentagon FCU back in 2010 or 11...had lost the paper work on it...so i just googled ..bank deals pentagon fcu ,the date and rate. ...and there it was ...you explaining the EWP for that particular cd ....
Thanks a $million$ Ken
floored me was the clarity, directness and accuracy of Ken's writings.
Too good to be true; no way this is going to last I thought. This Ken
guy will be captured by a zillion dollar contract from the Yankees!
Eight years later, the excellence continues---no, it's even better.
Indy Mac 5.71%, Premier CU & Patelco 7.00% from the early days
through Penfed 5.00% a few years ago. Ken is to deposit accounts,
what Google is to searches. Thank you, thank you.
So....THANK YOU for all you're doing for us! I second those members who suggested to give some kind of remuneration. It's proper, it's necessary and you well deserve it. :o) Adela
Congrats Ken for all the hard work and helping me buy some new toys and give the Chex system a little workout at times!
Thank you Ken, the service you are providing is powerful and immensely helpful. I've told all my family about this site. I also enjoy hearing comments from other intelligent savers as I am in my early 30s.
Yes, I am one of those who learned about Pen Fed's 6.25%, 5-yr certificates from your website back in 2007, and bought one. How can I ever thank you enough for that, as well as all the other CDs I learned about from you? I remember making a small contribution to your "tip jar", and promising that a larger tip would be coming at a later date. Much to my surprise, you sent me an email, thanking me! What a nice fellow is in charge here! Unfortunately, the tip jar disappeared soon afterwards, before I could make another contribution. Do know, however, how much I continue to appreciate your work. Great job, Ken! You have every reason to be proud of this site.
One of the best ways to measure the value of the site is the number of good accounts we've signed up for (and bad ones we're avoided!).
I got in on Countrywide 4.2% 1-yr CD's and 3% savings, the WaMu 5% 1-yr CD, the DollarSavingsDirect 4% savings and 4% 16-mo CD, the 3/4/5% step-up Darby 36-mo CD (even though that didn't last) and Darby 3% savings, the 2.25% SFGI savings account, the WTDirect $500 bonus, and finally the Ally savings and 5-year CD with low penalties.
That's a lot of money saved.
Wish you the best with this new website and hope all the hard work you put into it over the years rewards you well.